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re: What I think many of us are trying to say.....QB related.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:17 am to armybass
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:17 am to armybass
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but trying to call valid criticism racism is disgusting.
So is trying to give the stain of racism the cover of valid criticism.
It does work both ways.
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:18 am to amarti9
I agree with this except the DA's office part. He coulda dropped the charges and been called an LSU homer until the end of time. Dude did the best he could in that situation...
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:18 am to armybass
I don't care who plays at QB. Like I....I just don't understand who cares. Not at this point. Not when we're 10-0.
I'm not apart of the Lee family. I don't care about his stats, I don't care about his playing time. I care about the effort of the team and LSU winning a title. Being that we're 10-0 and all the things this team has over came I'm just going to sit back and let the staff make the decisions. It seemed to have worked so far.
I'm not apart of the Lee family. I don't care about his stats, I don't care about his playing time. I care about the effort of the team and LSU winning a title. Being that we're 10-0 and all the things this team has over came I'm just going to sit back and let the staff make the decisions. It seemed to have worked so far.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:19 am to armybass
look as CLM said earlier in the week, JL knows the score here. He knows what the team is playing for. If the coaches decide something, we'll that's their job. JL is a redshirt senior, this ain't 2008 anymore.
It's not about what is fair. Fair woulda been not losing everyfrickingthing I owned in 2005 but IT happened. Nothing in life is "fair" good job by the coaches teaching the team this at this young stage of their lives
It's not about what is fair. Fair woulda been not losing everyfrickingthing I owned in 2005 but IT happened. Nothing in life is "fair" good job by the coaches teaching the team this at this young stage of their lives
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:20 am to drkennedy61
Just curious how did JL look in practice this past week leading up to the W Ky game since you feel he should have started the game.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:21 am to TIGRLEE
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Look at it on the bright side... only 3 or 4 more games to have to worry about it.
Then it will all be over.
yes because winning the NC with JJ getting significant playing time would be such a travesty
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:23 am to armybass
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I just don't think JL has been treated fairly in the past two weeks
It's not about fricking "fair." Not to individual players anyway. It's about what's fair to the fricking team and doing what's best to put the team in position to win. I think it's clear the coaches think Jefferson gives them that chance. You can disagree with that--that's valid. But all this crying over "fair" is just fricking bullshite. Nobody is "deserved" a fricking thing.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:24 am to Gray Tiger
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How much local fan contact do you have? Are you trying to convince me that you haven't heard the racial comments about any and all of them?
I remember Rohan Davy getting a lot of love from ALL LSU fans...never heard anyone knock him for his color...
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:25 am to armybass
Most people feel like the offense is non-existent with JJ in the game. They don't hate him. He's a talented change up from the passing game of JL. However, if the fear is that LSU will lose in the critical games, if JJ is running the offense. Yes, LSU will win in spite of poor QB play, but it may look like 2010 or last night.
Last year, LSU was one decent QB away from another NC. I'm just hoping this year is not the same.
Last year, LSU was one decent QB away from another NC. I'm just hoping this year is not the same.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:26 am to drkennedy61
I think the way Miles has handled the QBs to this point has been extremely effective. The offense - with both QBs - has been more efficient and effective than last year. I'm not saying that Lee should have started; I'm a big Lee fan, but he laid a huge egg last game - the biggest of the season so far. There should be consequences for that. No problem with him not starting.
That said, it just seems to me that there are different standards applied. I was surprised at how little Lee actually played (after he was announced as the starter). Moreover, Les has consistently pulled Lee even when he is playing very well to insert Jefferson, and it doesn't seem that he's willing to pull Jefferson even when he is playing very poorly (as he did at times last night).
But its not my decision to make nor my standard that matters. It just pains me to see how many times Lee has saved Miles's butt (Tennessee last year?), yet he seems hell bent on giving Jefferson as much leeway as possible. Lee has been very good this year, and very steady. I think he's earned the same opportunity that Jefferson has - and Les Miles himself has said that.
That said, it just seems to me that there are different standards applied. I was surprised at how little Lee actually played (after he was announced as the starter). Moreover, Les has consistently pulled Lee even when he is playing very well to insert Jefferson, and it doesn't seem that he's willing to pull Jefferson even when he is playing very poorly (as he did at times last night).
But its not my decision to make nor my standard that matters. It just pains me to see how many times Lee has saved Miles's butt (Tennessee last year?), yet he seems hell bent on giving Jefferson as much leeway as possible. Lee has been very good this year, and very steady. I think he's earned the same opportunity that Jefferson has - and Les Miles himself has said that.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:26 am to Newgene
We looked fine on offense.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:27 am to boxcar willie
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yes because winning the NC with JL getting significant playing time would be such a travesty
what you really menat to say huh?
I fixed for you.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:28 am to Tiger in Texas
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I remember Rohan Davy getting a lot of love from ALL LSU fans...
Somewhat selective memory. He was certainly a fan favorite towards the end of his career, but I was at the Auburn game in '99 where they were about to boo him out of the fricking stadium. Didn't have anything to do with race though, all three of our QBs sucked at that point.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:29 am to Tiger in Texas
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I remember Rohan Davy getting a lot of love from ALL LSU fans...never heard anyone knock him for his color...
Rohan was very good QB. If he wasn't so good you would have heard the remarks.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:30 am to Topwater Trout
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Rohan was very good QB. If he wasn't so good you would have heard the remarks.
The race card is strong in many of you.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:37 am to TIGRLEE
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The race card is strong in many of you.
To deny that it's a factor is really naive. What I think a bigger factor here, though is that most of us--myself included--assume Lee is probably just a better guy than Jefferson. He's easier to root for. And that skews objectivity.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:38 am to armybass
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JL has been treated fairly
What is this, girl scouts? Flag football for 6 year olds? If he is so upset for getting benched after completing 5 passes against Alabama - 3 to LSU players and 2 to Alabama players - he needs to grow a sack.
Further, I trust Les Miles knows what is best for the team. We have no earthly idea what the practice week was like for the QB's. We have no earthly idea if Lee has been going to class.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:38 am to Newgene
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Most people feel like the offense is non-existent with JJ in the game.
The team had 474 yards of total offense last night. How can you make such a statement?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:42 am to Hot Carl
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To deny that it's a factor is really naive. What I think a bigger factor here, though is that most of us--myself included--assume Lee is probably just a better guy than Jefferson. He's easier to root for. And that skews objectivity.
I do agree with you.. JL is much eaiser to root for than JJ.
For me its not about color, but for some I suppose its part of it.
If I had to list 10(1 being most imoprtant) reasons why JL is easier to root for...... bc he is white would be #10.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:44 am to Newgene
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Most people feel like the offense is non-existent with JJ in the game
There is a reason "most people" aren't division 1 college coaches.
Why can't "most people" trust the coaches of the #1 ranked team to do what they think is best for the team?
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