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re: What has happened to Keiland Williams?
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:09 am to CaseyMc2
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:09 am to CaseyMc2
I have a theory about this I would like to explore:
I believe that it is possible that Les Miles AND other coaches on offense have watched the practices, games and tape and concluded that Scott is a more consistently productive back than KW and its a better blocker. These group of schemers may have even been encouraged by tthe league, which contrived to select Scott as all SEC, based on last year.
Miles and those acting in concert witht him, were probably fully mindful that K. Williams was a 5 star recruit, sought after by USC and that he played in HS before many adoring Tiger fans. They also were fully aware that Keiland was big, fast, articulate and as elusive as a refrigerator.
Think about it... stranger things have happened.
I believe that it is possible that Les Miles AND other coaches on offense have watched the practices, games and tape and concluded that Scott is a more consistently productive back than KW and its a better blocker. These group of schemers may have even been encouraged by tthe league, which contrived to select Scott as all SEC, based on last year.
Miles and those acting in concert witht him, were probably fully mindful that K. Williams was a 5 star recruit, sought after by USC and that he played in HS before many adoring Tiger fans. They also were fully aware that Keiland was big, fast, articulate and as elusive as a refrigerator.
Think about it... stranger things have happened.
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Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:12 am to TigerFan55555
I believe that is why we do not see the rythme that we need to make LSU the team that it should be. The line can only hold their blocks for so long before they turn into holding calls. If you think about it that is why they get called for so many holding penalties. You have to hit the hole fast and if you don't you are not going very for. If you hessitate it is over or the line will get called for holding.
Ridley hits the hole fast and with abandon and purpose and when he does that he makes the line happy and makes them look good. That is all that is lacking I believe and when they start running that way you will see the whole team playing with a better attitude and it will open up the passing game insted of the other way around.
Ridley hits the hole fast and with abandon and purpose and when he does that he makes the line happy and makes them look good. That is all that is lacking I believe and when they start running that way you will see the whole team playing with a better attitude and it will open up the passing game insted of the other way around.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:13 am to nitwit
i really get the feeling Keiland could end up like Terrel Davis. a guy you knew about in college but who did much better in the league.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:13 am to TigerFan55555
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Havent seen that from scott in a looooooooooooong time.
Scott runs as hard as he's capable of running. You still see him move big piles every now and again. It's just that he's so big he can't really move his legs very fast, so it appears he's not running hard. But he is. It's his speed that's the main problem, not effort.
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The bench (for a little while) The bench gives you lots of time to think about things and figure shite out...Thats why im so adament about keiland playing...even ridley... I think both will run with a purpose...
Meh. I'm all for Ridley playing, but Keiland's seen plenty of the bench--he's seen it for the most of 4 years, and he's still never run with a purpose. It's just not who he is. The psychology of the Keiland-lovers is interesting to me. Y'all keep waiting for him to emerge from the phone booth as the Superman 5* RB you expected 4 years ago and for some reason just can't come to terms with the fact that it will never happen. So you grasp at any reason(Les, Porter, mythical practice fumbling punishment, etc...) to explain why he has--and always will--remained Klark Kent.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:17 am to Hot Carl
Thank you
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:19 am to MastrShake
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Terrel Davis
Bad comparison. Davis had a studly senior year.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:31 am to Bubba Hotep
I could be wrong, but I wasn't overly impressed by Ridley last Sat. 1st he had some gapping holes against a JV team. If KW would've had the same touches, he does at least the same thing.
Nothing I saw, Wowed me from Ridley. That's not saying he's a bad back. He ran hard and looked ok, but you have to consider who he was running against.
As for KW, he's a decent back. He's just not a pound it in there type back. He's more of a finesse back. Why he doesn't get more touches is because the coaches view Scott as the bell cow. Then they share some touches between KW, RS, and TH. It's just the way they operate.
I will say that when KW has a few touches he usually performs pretty well.
Nothing I saw, Wowed me from Ridley. That's not saying he's a bad back. He ran hard and looked ok, but you have to consider who he was running against.
As for KW, he's a decent back. He's just not a pound it in there type back. He's more of a finesse back. Why he doesn't get more touches is because the coaches view Scott as the bell cow. Then they share some touches between KW, RS, and TH. It's just the way they operate.
I will say that when KW has a few touches he usually performs pretty well.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:35 am to Hot Carl
Pretty good post. I was watching the replay last night. I would have been on board with you totally, even with the slow legs thing until I saw the option play. He caught the pitch and took off like a very light back. I think Scott is faster than most of us give him credit for-at least in what matters most, the 10 yard dash.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:37 am to CaseyMc2
The one criticism I have of the offensive scheming this season is that they try to employ too many players, at the expense of giving a smaller number the opportunity to develop some rhythm and continuity in the flow of a game. And it doesn't confuse the defenses at all. Inded, if it's Shepard, it will be a run, likely to the perimeter. If it's Scott, it will be a run off tackle. If it's Holliday, it will be an option or a QB keeper. If it's empty backfield, it will be a pass. Makes defending easier.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:39 am to nycajun
That is a problem.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:43 am to CaseyMc2
Can't run, hands of stone on passes, can't block. Move over KW here comes Ridley.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:55 am to Teacher
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Can't run
he can run, just not as consistently as Chuck. also I think he's been hurt by how we run him. after those first few games it seems most of his carries have been either speed option (where he gets put in bad positions when JJ pitches) or that fake FB/ TB flip play that MSU was blowing up. the first few games he was looking good on straight handoffs, getting in a rhythm and running hard, but those opportunities have disappeared.
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hands of stone on passes
uhhh, no.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:57 am to CaseyMc2
I think if Keiland can just learn to quit tackling himself he will be a great one. Until then, expect more of the same.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 10:19 am to ROUSTER
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I could be wrong, but I wasn't overly impressed by Ridley last Sat. 1st he had some gapping holes against a JV team. If KW would've had the same touches, he does at least the same thing.
Nothing I saw, Wowed me from Ridley. That's not saying he's a bad back. He ran hard and looked ok, but you have to consider who he was running against.
As it stands, Ridley is the most overrated player on the roster.
Lots of people will be bitching Saturday when he doesn't play. There's a reason he won't play Saturday...
Posted on 11/5/09 at 10:23 am to CaseyMc2
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I believe that is why we do not see the rythme that we need to make LSU the team that it should be. The line can only hold their blocks for so long before they turn into holding calls. If you think about it that is why they get called for so many holding penalties. You have to hit the hole fast and if you don't you are not going very for. If you hessitate it is over or the line will get called for holding.
NO shite!!!
quote:i respectfully disagree
he's so big he can't really move his legs very fast, so it appears he's not running hard. But he is. It's his speed that's the main problem, not effort.
quote:never say never, a coach can always wise up...
with the fact that it will never happen.
quote:yeah, in space! anyone can do that, we're talking about running b/t the tackles that way...and he hadnt done it all year...
caught the pitch and took off like a very light back. I think Scott is faster than most of us give him credit for-at least in what matters most, the 10 yard dash
Posted on 11/5/09 at 10:49 am to OBUDan
Agree Dan.
I missed the end of the game, so last night was the first time I saw the "Ridley Drive". Based on the way some ranters described it, I was expecting the next Cecil Collins (on the field of course). That's not what I saw at all.
All I saw was a backup running back, run hard, through gapping holes, against a 2nd team D that was probably on par with a college JV.
Not trying to take anything from Ridley, he may end up being a very good back. But, there is a reason he hasn't hit the field this year.
Again, give KW those same carries and holes and he does more with them, IMO.
As for KW, I expect him to get more carries this week. While I don't think he runs tough enough at times, if you give him some space he tends to make yards out of it. And he seems to have the 1 thing that Scott lacks at times, vision.
I missed the end of the game, so last night was the first time I saw the "Ridley Drive". Based on the way some ranters described it, I was expecting the next Cecil Collins (on the field of course). That's not what I saw at all.
All I saw was a backup running back, run hard, through gapping holes, against a 2nd team D that was probably on par with a college JV.
Not trying to take anything from Ridley, he may end up being a very good back. But, there is a reason he hasn't hit the field this year.
Again, give KW those same carries and holes and he does more with them, IMO.
As for KW, I expect him to get more carries this week. While I don't think he runs tough enough at times, if you give him some space he tends to make yards out of it. And he seems to have the 1 thing that Scott lacks at times, vision.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 10:52 am to ROUSTER
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And he seems to have the 1 thing that Scott lacks at times, vision.
agree
Posted on 11/5/09 at 10:57 am to TigerFan55555
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yeah, in space! anyone can do that, we're talking about running b/t the tackles that way...and he hadnt done it all year...
Complete utter bullshite.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 11:13 am to TigerFan55555
No doubt everyone is too excited about #34, but we haven't been excited this year about our running game ,except for CS's big run against GA. KW is a senior and deserves more carries, but doesn't run with authority and the aggressive style that Ridley does. The sucker lowers his head and pop's people.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 11:17 am to OBUDan
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As it stands, Ridley is the most overrated player on the roster.
I agree, but the same could be said about any player that is not playing that the fans want to see. The player on the bench is always better. If you ask fans the following questions, these are the responses you will get:
Best QB: Lee
Best RB: Keiland or Ridley
Best OL: Blackwell
Best Center: Lonergan
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