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re: What did JJ do that was so bad in the 1st half?
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:44 am to Sports2
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:44 am to Sports2
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les plays him because he doesn't turn the ball over, i don't understand why it's so hard for the fans to figure out. look at the field position, if they're within their 20, jj's in the game because of his ability to run or pass, and when he passes, it's low percentage for a pick.
Now, I agree with this for the most part. Jefferson is the "safer" option with this particular offense as far as Miles is concerned. And I'm not in a position to argue with his success.
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:44 am to tsmi136
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So you would take a QB that threw for 30 yards than a QB who went for 200 with the CHANCE of an interception? It's part of the game. Is it so much to ask for a QB that can throw it?
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:44 am to theunknownknight
what everone fails to see if JJ is completing some of those first passes then georgia would be in nickel or at the least dropping back some LB's into coverage, thus the defensive pressure wouldn't have been as bad as it got towards the end of the first quarter and the second quarter.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:44 am to theunknownknight
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All four of his first passes were almost picked off.
Let's not argue all night long about this.
I'm happy with the win.
In a few years, the win is all we'll remember.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:47 am to Hoodoo Man
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Let's not argue all night long about this.
I'm happy with the win.
In a few years, the win is all we'll remember.
I just don't understand why people are so pissed that JL wasn't put in. LSU won 42-10. That's pretty terrible evidence of it having been a bad decision to leave JJ in.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:47 am to Tiger JJ
persona non grada? Not sure if that is right, but you get the idea.
Lee had ample chances in the past four games where he could have played and got meaningful snaps. Les just makes it worse by saying he "wants" to get him in the game. That's like saying I wanted to drink a glass of water, i'm in control of drinking water, if I want to do it, I do it. It's not like Les wants to climb Everest. But again, it's about W's, not making me understand or a fan base sleep better at night. As much as it might grind some gears. I'd love for les to just straight up tell me that he doesn't trust lee, I can guess that's the reason, and I think I am right, but I don't know for 100% certain.
Lee had ample chances in the past four games where he could have played and got meaningful snaps. Les just makes it worse by saying he "wants" to get him in the game. That's like saying I wanted to drink a glass of water, i'm in control of drinking water, if I want to do it, I do it. It's not like Les wants to climb Everest. But again, it's about W's, not making me understand or a fan base sleep better at night. As much as it might grind some gears. I'd love for les to just straight up tell me that he doesn't trust lee, I can guess that's the reason, and I think I am right, but I don't know for 100% certain.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:48 am to bulldog95
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what everone fails to see if JJ is completing some of those first passes then georgia would be in nickel or at the least dropping back some LB's into coverage, thus the defensive pressure wouldn't have been as bad as it got towards the end of the first quarter and the second quarter.
Yeah I bet we could have blown them out then....wait....
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:48 am to Sports2
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But it seems some people only see what they want to see
He had a large number of turnovers last season (and he threw at least 4 balls that could have been picked tonight), and JL has had 4 turnovers in the past 2 years. That argument simply doesn't hold water.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:49 am to Sports2
quote:BUT...
jj couldn't throw, so UGA didn't have to defend it.
They have to defend his ability to run.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:49 am to Starchild
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Cannot tell me with a straight face that JL performing the exact same way would not have been benched for JJ. You know it isn't true
Agree completely. Only because a more mobile qb would have been a better option when the oline was playing like shite.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:50 am to Housplants
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could have
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:50 am to Sports2
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Lee had ample chances in the past four games where he could have played and got meaningful snaps. Les just makes it worse by saying he "wants" to get him in the game. That's like saying I wanted to drink a glass of water, i'm in control of drinking water, if I want to do it, I do it. It's not like Les wants to climb Everest. But again, it's about W's, not making me understand or a fan base sleep better at night. As much as it might grind some gears. I'd love for les to just straight up tell me that he doesn't trust lee, I can guess that's the reason, and I think I am right, but I don't know for 100% certain.
You obviously know more about it than I do. I just always assume I now way less than the people actually making the decisions. IMO, this isn't a controversy at all. JJ plays the 2nd half of the season and LSU is headed to the title game. If JJ had actually seriously jeopardized actual victories, I'm confident the coaching staff would have put JL in.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:51 am to Tiger JJ
Some bad throws. Not a lot of help from the oline. The thing I hate most about JJ is when he rolls out he looks as if he is about to throw. Sees a defender coming, rather than throwing the ball he tries to outrun the defender and ends up getting sacked.
I blame the oline mostly. There's a reason our running game wasn't working either.
I blame the oline mostly. There's a reason our running game wasn't working either.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:51 am to Tiger JJ
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I just don't understand why people are so pissed that JL wasn't put in.
Just because when you have two potential starters, and one is sucking up the place ....and your coach says it will probably happen....you kind of hope just for the other guys sake he can get a meaningful snap or two. And you wonder why, when it doesn't.
People wondered this same thing when JJ played for half a season like he played today. I think everyone agreed with JJ replacing Lee vs Bama.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:54 am
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:54 am to Tiger JJ
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If JJ had actually seriously jeopardized actual victories, I'm confident the coaching staff would have put JL in.
I think les would stick with JJ and go down with that ship, that's what he's done in the past. it's his roots, Big10 slug it out, ball control, it's really not as complex as we all would like to think it is.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Just because when you have two potential starts, and one is sucking up the place ....and your coach says it will probably happen....you kind of hope just for the other guys sake he can get a meaningful snap or two. And you wonder why, when it doesn't.
He said that AFTER the 1st half. Correct me if I'm wrong, but LSU's follow up to that was to go 35-0 for the remainder of the game. What part of that would possibly make you want to put JL in the game?
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:54 am to Sports2
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I think les would stick with JJ and go down with that ship,
I leaned that way, but bought into that for sure..today.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:55 am to Sports2
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Les just makes it worse by saying he "wants" to get him in the game. That's like saying I wanted to drink a glass of water, i'm in control of drinking water, if I want to do it, I do it.
I don't agree with this at all.
Is Les just supposed to ignore the game situation? He wants to put Lee in the game early but he doesn't like where the game is. Should he just ignore what he wants to accomplish to put Lee in?
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:55 am to Sports2
quote:That's where Saban gets it as well...
it's his roots, Big10 slug it out, ball control, it's really not as complex as we all would like to think it is.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:55 am to Sports2
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I think les would stick with JJ and go down with that ship, that's what he's done in the past.
It is?
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