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re: What did JJ do that was so bad in the 1st half?

Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:27 am to
Posted by MakeMoney
Guck Foodell
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:27 am to
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oline was terrible in this game
I thought they did a did a good job, maybe not as great the 1st half, but well enough.

Jefferson can't make a decision. He has open guys and can't hit them. There was a clear clip of him dropping back and immediately looking at the rushers rather than his receivers downfield. Last year all over again. A win is a win in my book, but he was terrible
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:29 am
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
65740 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:27 am to
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Not saying he was playing lights-out or anything, but didn't seem like he was getting any help from the OL. And he had at least 1 pass that was dropped that would have been a 1st down.


He didn't have a great half, but to listen to some of the posters here they're giving no credit at all to UGA. The UGA defense was playing lights out in the first half. They controlled the line of scrimmage and had good coverage. But it seems some people only see what they want to see.

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IMO, this JJ/JL crap is WAY overblown. Stop assuming you know something that Miles and the staff don't know. Take your 13-0 and STFU.


Bingo.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26137 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:27 am to
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And the intentional grounding was a GOOD play...not a bad one.


I don't think so. There were only about 30 seconds left in the half. Take the sack, go to the locker room. Stupid penalty, stop the clock, have to punt. While Georgia didn't make anything out of it, the penalty afforded Georgia another possession. The sack would have produced a better outcome.
Posted by That LSU Guy
PVB
Member since Jul 2008
14095 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:28 am to
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Especially when we have a QB that is capable of doing what we couldn't: throw the ball
And possibly turn it over...

You can't have it both ways.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:28 am to
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Not saying he was playing lights-out or anything, but didn't seem like he was getting any help from the OL. And he had at least 1 pass that was dropped that would have been a 1st down.


Exactly what I have been saying.

JJ missed on a couple of throws, but the first half was not all on him. We couldn't run the ball for shite and JJ was running for his life in the first half. I don't know what people thought Lee would be able to do differently.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:28 am to
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Loss of down and ydg. is rarely a good thing,


Better than taking the sack without trying, which is what the old JJ would have done.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:28 am to
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But it seems some people only see what they want to see.




I think in order to sanitize the performance, you would be doing exactly the same thing...

He has another game to improve.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:29 am to
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Probably his best play of the day..




and he zero time to throw it...and the oline couldnt get 1 yard on 2 tries after that.

Im fine saying JJ played bad in 1st half as long as people agree that entire Offense played bad in 1st half
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21040 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:29 am to
first pass to randle. He was open behind the defense had to come back for it cause it was underthrown.

over threw sheppard at the 30 yard line should have been intercepted.

Over threw another receiver around the 20-30 yard line when the ball actually went through a defenders hands.

no first downs and only 12 offensive yards. Its hard to run when the defense is selling out for the run cause they know your QB wouldn't be able to complete a pass if everyone on the defense had on blinders and couldn't see.

Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
65740 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:30 am to
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I think in order to sanitize the performance, you would be doing exactly the same thing...


I said he didn't have a good half. Do you think UGA's defense had anything to do with it? You do know they're pretty damned good, right?
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:30 am to
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first pass to randle. He was open behind the defense had to come back for it cause it was underthrown.

over threw sheppard at the 30 yard line should have been intercepted.

Over threw another receiver around the 20-30 yard line when the ball actually went through a defenders hands.


I notice you left out the dropped 1st down.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:32 am to
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I said he didn't have a good half. Do you think UGA's defense had anything to do with it? You do know they're pretty damned good, right?


Acting like JL would have been some immediate magic potion against the UGA D in the beginning is just silly.
Posted by tsmi136
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
4013 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:32 am to
So you would take a QB that threw for 30 yards than a QB who went for 200 with the CHANCE of an interception? It's part of the game. Is it so much to ask for a QB that can throw it?


This really isn't an issue because we didn't have to throw the ball. Our defense/special teams was insanely good tonight and we were running all over them so we didn't have to throw it but what we saw tonight is unacceptable.

ETA: I'm not saying all the blame is on JJ cause the Oline was being pushed around by UGA's really good defense. 30 yards is just embarrassing though.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:35 am
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:33 am to
I still feel like the score is at least partly indicative of a QB's performance.
The QB spot is so important to a team.
It's nearly impossible to win by as much as we did without one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:33 am to
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I said he didn't have a good half. Do you think UGA's defense had anything to do with it? You do know they're pretty damned good, right?



No doubt, but LSU has a shitty passing day, period. Georgia gives up about 170 a game. I am excited about the next QB era. These two get to go out on a high note, hopefully
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:34 am
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
8758 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:33 am to
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5/13 for 30 yards is unacceptable. Especially when we have a QB that is capable of doing what we couldn't: throw the ball


This, end thread...
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21040 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:34 am to
i'm at work trying to remember the game. Hell i stopped watching some of it to get a piece of arse, guess you could say I was doing better and scoring more than JJ in the first half.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:34 am to
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I still feel like the score is at least partly indicative of a QB's performance.
The QB spot is so important to a team.
It's nearly impossible to win by as much as we did without one.


I sort of agree. The fact that JJ can run is a vast advantage he has over JL. Just look at the Ark game last week.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:35 am to
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Don't you have to be in the pocket?


No, you don't have to be in the pocket. The rule is you have to be outside of the "tackle box", which is the invisible box between the two tackles on the offensive line. Also, if you are outside of the tackle box, which he wasnt, you have to throw the ball past the line of scrimmage, which he also didnt do. It was the correct call.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:35 am to
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The fact that JJ can run is a vast advantage he has over JL. Just look at the Ark game last week.


Play calling sucked. They kept JJ in the pocket which isn't his strength. Play selection was as frustrating as anything.
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