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re: What did JJ do that was so bad in the 1st half?

Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84495 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:43 pm to
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There's a chance the flag won't be thrown.
Yes, and that chance is 0.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:45 pm to
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Yes, and that chance is 0.


What do you mean? The rule has been made even MORE friendly this year and all you have to do is put the ball "in the vicinity" of a potential receiver (I believe it used to be the receiver had to have a good possibility of catching it or some verbiage like that).

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13191 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:47 pm to
Well, let's see. He missed a wide open Randle for a TD on the first drive. Most of his throws were awful. Seemed confused most of the time in the pocket...
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25302 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:48 pm to
JJ has played well this year, but that was the ghost of JJ past last night for most of the game.

He was horribly inaccurate and just made some bad decisions in general. He used to start off games throwing the ball way too hard and high, and thankfully, we haven't seen that this year (until last night).

He did a little better in the 2nd half, but thank God the D, special teams and running backs made plays because it would have been a long night if we needed to pass to win with JJ last night. I was surprised that we didn't see Lee at all. Most of the passes were not even catchable.
Posted by Me4Heisman
Landmass
Member since Aug 2004
5509 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:49 pm to
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It makes a lot of sense. There's a chance the flag won't be thrown. If you get sacked, you lose the yardage anyway and the down. If you don't get the flag, you get the ball back at the LoS.


I dont think encouraging a QB to make an errant throw is better than taking a sack, but whatever.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:50 pm to
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Mostly because I'm weary of the CONSTANT bickering about JL vs JJ. I mean, in the immediate wake of the game - the SEC Title Game in which LSU completed a 13-0 season by absolutely decimating almost every opponent by many TD's - the Score Board was littered with threads with people whining about the QB situation. It just seems pathological at this point.


I think some folks just can't stand prosperity, they're convinced it's all about to be taken away from them. Probably has something to do with the victim mentality of many mid to lower class southerners. Of course a small group of these bitchers are probably just Miles-haters who are short on things to be outraged about.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:50 pm to
The OL underperformed but he made several bad throws with plenty of time to get the ball off. The guy has zero situational awareness, and that was evident when he looked around at the refs not knowing why they blew the play dead at the end of the first quarter.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
32932 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:50 pm to
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Quick, name the last 3 times those happened.


Quick, name the last 3 times he threw for over 100 yards.

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It is?


Yes, it is.

However, they both need to play. Everyone knows JJ cant throw. Everyone knows Lee cant run. They both need to play to keep teams honest. What happens when our defense/special teams can score?
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:51 pm to
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Probably has something to do with the victim mentality of many mid to lower class southerner


What are you talking about?
Posted by TigerEast
Alabama
Member since Dec 2003
1452 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:54 pm to
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oline was terrible in this game, everyone looks at stats and says 5-13 30 td he sucks


JJ was not passing well and therefore UGA was stacking the line of scrimage (eight players in the box). This makes it difficult on the blocking and had adverse effect on the OL. This is the same thing that happened the previous two seasons that JJ was the starter. If JJ is on like against Arky it stretches the defense and creates more success for the running game. If JJ is off like last night then it causes many issues. JJ better be on for the NC game or it will be a struggle.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:54 pm to
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I don't like or dislike either of them


Our QB's have accounted for 24 TDs, 4 ints, and a rating of 152.

Our scoring offense and Passing eff. are both #1 in the SEC.

For a 13 game period, we are scoring 39 pts a game and giving up 10 while playing a Top 5 SOS.

Can we please stop whining like 2 yr olds and be grateful to all coaches and players who have made 2011 the freaking elite season it has become.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282854 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:56 pm to
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Not true. It's often a free option for the QB.


You need to stick to things other than football. You seem to forget the loss of down part, and tossing of a football while being tackled.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 1:01 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:58 pm to
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What are you talking about?


largely blaming others for their station in life, pretty common in southern states. Yankees, blacks, mexicans, government, corporate fat-cats, etc, etc. (obviously mostly talking about whites here)

You see it on this board quite a bit with the "ESPN hates us" type stuff. It seems to be important to them that Lee is "getting screwed".
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84495 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:58 pm to
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What do you mean? The rule has been made even MORE friendly this year and all you have to do is put the ball "in the vicinity" of a potential receiver
That's fine and good. The problem is, there was no receiver in view.
Posted by fanrun
Omaha, Ne
Member since Jan 2008
1277 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:58 pm to
He was just off. Would have at least seen Lee for 1 series in the 2nd quarter.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5440 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:59 pm to
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dont think encouraging a QB to make an errant throw is better than taking a sack, but whatever.



Agree, especially since the penalty is walked off from the spot of the throw and you lose a down. Grounding is the worst penalty a team can get called for, there is no circumstance where it is a good idea.
Posted by lsu mike
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
8580 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:59 pm to
Exactly. People blaming the o-line are just making excuses for JJ. It's obvious he can't throw and if the running game isn't working he has no idea what to do. Like was said if the special teams or defense can't make things happen, watchout. That is if Miles refuses to play Lee.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282854 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:59 pm to
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Probably has something to do with the victim mentality of many mid to lower class southerner



What are you talking about?



He is trying to brag he has a higher income than you simply because you disagree.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99893 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:00 pm to
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What did JJ do that was so bad in the 1st half?


looked EXACTLY like our putrid QB from 2010. He may not have gotten help from the OLine but JJ didn't do himself any favors. Every time he threw the ball it was overthrown, underthrown, behind or at the feet of his targets
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:01 pm to
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You need to stick to things other than football. You seem to forget the loss of down part.


a sack is a "loss of down" as well. His point is, if you get rid of the ball there is a small chance that it doesn't get called...however, I think the risk of interception or a backwards pass once the defender has you engaged is not really worth it, just take the sack.
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