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re: What CFB head coach is acceptable to the Miles haters?
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:27 pm to MoreOrLes
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:27 pm to MoreOrLes
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Butch Davis
I live in NC and they're not that wild about him here.
Same complaints about him here as you read about Miles on this board.... great ambassador for the school, great recruiter but mediocre game day coach.
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:28 pm to PurpleNGold4Ever
My apologies. You are going off on conferences, misnaming coaches, etc which doesn't lend to your argument.
A particular conference shouldn't hold back a coach, most have to move up from somewhere. Urban Meyer was coaching in two pretty crappy conferences, one in the same recruiting ground you just mentioned.
Good coaches have coached in bad conferences before, it's really about what they have done and how they built or maintained a program.
A particular conference shouldn't hold back a coach, most have to move up from somewhere. Urban Meyer was coaching in two pretty crappy conferences, one in the same recruiting ground you just mentioned.
Good coaches have coached in bad conferences before, it's really about what they have done and how they built or maintained a program.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:30 pm to kbro
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Neither did Chuck Weiss before he started coaching at ND
How are you gonna compare Charlie Weis to BK? Charlie had never even been a head coach before he got hired at ND
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:30 pm to Prominentwon
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Jim Harbaugh
This is also a good choice, IMO. That man is going to win some games at Stanford.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:31 pm to danfraz
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The majority of fans know when it's time to do something.
This I do not agree with. I think there is way too much history at LSU to support the opposite claim. That said, Miles has done nothing to be terminated and has earned the right to coach LSU. But time doesn't stand still, situations like this are always moving and things do change.
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but change for change's sake isn't always the best option.
Can't you see how people get frustrated with these kind of "better coach" threads when the season hasn't even been finished? Thats what really annoys me
This I can completely understand.
This post was edited on 11/10/09 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:32 pm to SwampDonks
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Charlie had never even been a head coach before he got hired at ND
yet everyone thought he would have them turned around overnight.
BK coaching in the SEC is just as big of a jump IMO. He'd go from coaching against the average Joes he's been up against to facing Spurrier, Saban, Richt, Monte K, Myer.
No guarantees that what he's done at Cincy translates.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:32 pm to MetArl15
I will take Miles over any coach's mention so far.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:35 pm to kbro
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He'd go from coaching against the average Joes he's been up against to facing Spurrier, Saban, Richt, Miles.
No guarantees that what he's done at Bowling Green and Utah translates.
Signed,
Urban Meyer
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:35 pm to LSUcrawfish
quote:Correct. The only coach with a better record is Meyer. Why would you trade for a guy who has proven less than what you have?
I will take Miles over any coach's mention so far.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:35 pm to kbro
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No guarantees that what he's done at Cincy translates.
I agree with that, and he could very well not do so hot. But him winning everywhere he has been in a short range of time is completely different than someone who had never been a head coach anywhere, and never had a job in the college ranks
BK has about as good a resume as anyone right now, although that does not mean he would come to the SEC and have immediate success
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:37 pm to drizztiger
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Signed,
Urban Meyer
exception not the rule
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:39 pm to SwampDonks
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BK has about as good a resume as anyone right now, although that does not mean he would come to the SEC and have immediate success
Right, if Miles left of his own choosing to go to UM and we needed a coach, BK is as logical a choice as any.
But right now I would not trade straight up b/c of fear of the unknown.
Most of Les' shortcomings can be corrected.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:40 pm to kbro
You basically said he's not guaranteed success. No one is though, regardless in which conference they previously coached.
You hire the resume.
You hire the resume.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:41 pm to kbro
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Right, if Miles left of his own choosing to go to UM and we needed a coach, BK is as logical a choice as any.
But right now I would not trade straight up b/c of fear of the unknown.
Most of Les' shortcomings can be corrected.
Good post.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:43 pm to drizztiger
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You basically said he's not guaranteed success. No one is though, regardless in which conference they previously coached.
You hire the resume
All true
But the premise of this thread is what coach is acceptable instead of Miles and reading through this thread people throw 20 names out there as if they're all slam dunks.
I'm just saying that there aren't slam dunks, just calculated risks.
Richt was the flavor of the month when he went to UGA and LSU fans damn sure wouldn't be satisfied w/ his body of work. Yet at that time, he was as sure a bet as there was.
This post was edited on 11/10/09 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:49 pm to kbro
If Richt was hired in 2000, LSU fans would have been fine with the results and would only now have become wary. If he was hired in 2005, he would be in a similar position as Miles as far as getting heat from fans.
Florida firing Zook after three consecutive winning seasons and hitting the jackpot with Meyer in 2005 and Alabama bankrolling for Saban in 2007 have changed the landscape in the SEC.
Florida firing Zook after three consecutive winning seasons and hitting the jackpot with Meyer in 2005 and Alabama bankrolling for Saban in 2007 have changed the landscape in the SEC.
This post was edited on 11/10/09 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 11/10/09 at 4:54 pm to drizztiger
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If he was hired in 2005, he would be in a similar position as Miles as far as getting heat from fans.
Yeah and he appeared to UGA to be the most sure bet out there which shows that there aren't sure bets.
Jury is still out on Saban at Bama, but he's been worth the cash so far.
Myer is a home run, but I think UF is a unique situation.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 7:05 pm to kbro
I'm still curious to see WHO others think would be a replacement if Miles did leave for Michigan
Posted on 11/10/09 at 8:11 pm to supatigah
Miles is an excellent coach; very likely he'll be our coach for the foreseeable future. The only plausible scenario in which he leaves LSU (at least in the next 2-3 yrs.) is if the Mich. job is open, and they offer it to him.
Although he's losing tonight, I think the Univ. of Buffalo's head coach, Turner Gill, is awfully impressive. Not sure he's quite ready for a job the magnitude of LSU, but I predict he'll coach at a major D-1 school in the next 5 yrs.
Although he's losing tonight, I think the Univ. of Buffalo's head coach, Turner Gill, is awfully impressive. Not sure he's quite ready for a job the magnitude of LSU, but I predict he'll coach at a major D-1 school in the next 5 yrs.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 8:13 pm to pistolpete23
Leave Mac in Texas...Nice avatar!
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