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re: What caused LSU Football's putrid 90's run?

Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by Carlos
Member since Nov 2006
2130 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:17 pm to
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This is the correct answer. He wanted Spurrier at UF and he convinced the board to snub Spurrier(who really wanted the LSU job) in favor of Archer.



Nah... while he may have convinced LSU to hire Archer, it had nothing to do with Spurrier. Arnsparger didn't hire Spurrier until another three years after that.
Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:18 pm to
Prop 48
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30357 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

There was a dip in talent and prop 48 was also a negative factor, but there was still talent in state, we just weren't get any of.


Hard to blame Prop 48 while guys like Marshall Faulk, Warrick Dunn, and Ed Reid were going out of state. The was talent, and Curley got a lot of it still. He was just a terrible terrible head coach. He had to get the talent much better than what Archer was recruiting from exclusively Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 9/6/12 at 9:24 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31882 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:21 pm to
Hallman was a piece of worthless fricking horse shite steeped in stupidity. frick him.
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:21 pm to
Not so.... there was talent. Lsu has been and always will be LSU-the place to go for the best in La.
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:22 pm to
Winner winner chicken dinner
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30357 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:25 pm to
Alrighty then. I'll gladly go with your word on this bud. Say hello to the wife.
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:25 pm to
Very wrong about Archer and Hallman. Archer had talented players. Curley was an absolute idiot.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14682 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:27 pm to
The death of Bo Rein then as many have said, the talent of Brett Favre which lead many to believe Hallman could actually coach.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59064 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

Hard to blame Prop 48 while guys like Marshall Faulk, Warrick Dunn, and Ed Reid were going out of state




Prop 48 passed in 1986, in was in place long enough for people to adjust by the time Faulk* was coming out, let alone Dunn and Reed who were well after. It was a factor right after it passed cause La schools were not good and kids were unprepared.

Next to the Spurrier non sense, Marshall Faulk is my biggest revisionist pet peeve He went to SDSU at a time elite powerhouses like Miami, Notre Dame, FSU and Nebraska were recruiting La. Everyone missed on him, the only guy that might have snagged him is Miles.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:36 pm to
after arnsbarger, our AD got ate up with the dumbass. and settled for shite and paid shite. had no vision of who we were; damn near killed us. dinardo started the upswing.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10580 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:39 pm to
Popular bumper sticker at start of Hallman era:
CRAZY 'BOUT CURLEY

Popular bumper sticker at end of Hallman era:
CURLEY 'BOUT CRAZY
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14682 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

dinardo started the upswing.


I was so happy with that 7-4-1 record in Dinardo's first season. That Indy bowl victory over Mich St was lIke Christmas for a 10 year old.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59064 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:42 pm to
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Regarding Gerry DiNardo and the coaching pool... Mack Brown was the number one choice in 1995, I believe. He was at UNC at the time, very successful, we were just unwilling to pay enough for him to leave. Pat Sullivan at TCU had accepted the job in principle, we just were unable or unwilling to come up with the money for his buyout.



ding ding ding. We can blame Archer and Hallman all day long, but they didn't hire themselves. Joe Dean ran a 2nd rate program, but was happy as long as he was in the black. People like to blame Lou Tepper for DiNardo's down fall. We only had Tepper because DiNardo's first DC, Carl Reese left for Texas and a big raise with Mack Brown, who wanted the LSU job but not for what Dean wanted to pay. Emmert came in a knew we were leaving big money on the table by being cheap. I've heard Dean not only wanted to give DiNardo another year, but wanted to low ball Saban.

If you want to blame one guy this is your man

This post was edited on 9/6/12 at 9:44 pm
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7349 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:44 pm to
Well Michigan got leroy hoard, miami got several players as did notre dame and FSU. Archer was a good assistant but not a good head coach, Hallman had brett favre so he was overated, Hallman recruited some decent talent but was not a good game day coach.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10580 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:45 pm to
Your Joe Dean picture reminds me of his most frequent call when he did color for LSU basketball games: "Came up arn (iron) on that shot, John (Ferguson)".
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:46 pm to
He definitely hired them, but its left up to them to coach. I can promise you he had nothing to do with that.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1886 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:00 pm to
LSU under archer only lost Michael Carr (Clemson)

He also lost a guy named Michael Jackson from Kentwood. Dude was a 6'4" wide receiver that could fly. Went to Southern Miss and was eventually drafted in '91 by the Cleveland Browns. Had to retire at age 29 due to injuries, but had a few good seasons including tied for NFL lead in TD receptions (14) in 1996.
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:06 pm to
Hallman wasn't a good coach Sunday thru Monday. period.
Posted by yankeelover
Member since Sep 2012
629 posts
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:09 pm to
I blame La'el.
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