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re: What are the odds of altering the permanent opponents

Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:17 am to
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:17 am to
Not good. It's like tax reform. Everybody knows it needs to be done, but the contigent that benefits won't let it happen.
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3806 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:27 am to
Almost zero.

The other schools like that either LSU or UF gets a guaranteed loss. Alabama, Tennessee, UGA and Auburn want to keep their rivalry games, and the have nots enjoy playing each other because they see a chance for a win (miss st vs kentucy, ole miss vs vandy).
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21763 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:31 am to
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Out of curiosity, what would BAMA's record have been against Florida the last 4 years in your opinion?? The only opponent that has kept us from the big enchilada has been....wait for it.....BAMA. Swap anybody else for Florida and still have to beat BAMA in last two meetings for the Gold.
one could argue that LSU, in 2011, did beat Bama to get the GOLD. But, since Bama's cross-div record was softer than LSU's, Bama survived the overall regular season with only 1 loss and, as a result, backed its way into the BCS title game. So, even when LSU "does what it needs to" from an SEC schedule, it was still shown to be an advantage to Bama.
Posted by lsuin92
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
1390 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:42 am to
Scott Rabalais had a good point in the Advocate about this:

quote:

Of course, the simplest solution is probably the farthest off the table: move Alabama and Auburn to the East and Missouri and another school (Vanderbilt or Kentucky) to the West.

But wait, some would cry, that would create a competitive imbalance.

Exactly.


Rabalais article
Posted by MikeTheTiger58
Greenwell Springs
Member since Apr 2012
593 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:55 am to
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Tennessee is as vocal as anybody about keeping the permanent opponents. Even though they suck right now, they aren't scared and don't bitch and moan like others.


Tenn sees there competition in the east as Georgia & Florida. Over the long term, Auburn and LSU are quality opponents for their competition.

1) I don't see Tenn as a quality opponent over the last 5 years. Maybe that will change in time.
2) My real complaint is with the transition scheduling. In a "one year only" schedule, they have LSU playing two of the top 3 east teams while Alabama is playing two teams who fired their coaches. Not at all balanced.

Long term, I always favored playing all of the other division teams over a 4 year span. You can not do that with 14 teams. I would go to 9 games and swap in 3 new teams each year. It could be 5 years between visits to any given opposite division campus, but that is the problem with 14 teams.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22597 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:56 am to
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Out of curiosity, what would BAMA's record have been against Florida the last 4 years in your opinion??


2009 Atlanta, GA
Alabama 32
Florida 13

2010 Tuscaloosa, AL
Alabama 31
Florida 6

2011 Gainesville, FL
Alabama 38
Florida 10

So that really only leaves last year up to the imagination.
Posted by madcap
Member since Mar 2013
1577 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:58 am to
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SEC meetings


Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 12:03 pm to
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Tennessee - Even though they suck right now, they aren't scared and don't bitch and moan like others.

Now if they can't just learn to count to eleven.
Posted by TFan
Seattle, WA
Member since Nov 2007
398 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 1:32 pm to
SEC could easily keep the permanent opponents as they stand and still make the schedule fair.
Let each team play one team from the top tier of the other division and one team from the lower tier (tiers determined by previous year standings).
For example, since Florida finished in the top tier of the East last year, our other opponent would be from the lower tier. If, in the future, the schedule changed to playing 3 teams from the other division, you would then play one team from the top tier, one from the middle tier, and one from the bottom tier. It's not brain surgery.
Not perfect, but sure would be a helluva lot more fair than what we've got now. Each team could still keep it's traditional rivals. I'm sure Bama wouldn't like it though, since they couldn't keep playing Tennessee and Vandy.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27354 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 3:07 pm to
Yes this thread again! Deal with it!

I will not be satisfied until the SEC sets up a fair system. I will bitch and moan as long as the SEC has an unfair system.

It is truly amazing that the SEC can set up a system where it is 100% guaranteed to be biased and unfair and that unfairness can not even be argued. The proponents of the shite crap of a scheduling system we have to deal with are force to argue FOR a system that is blatantly unfair to the point that they can't even dispute that it is unfair.
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