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re: We're going 4-8 aren't we?
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You must be Woodies wife or side piece.
you call me stupid and not understanding but keep resorting to tired put downs, that's a pretty good indicator of who does and does not understand what the other is saying in the this conversation.
But enjoy your melt the rest of the season. None of what you said will matter once the new coach is named.
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:02 pm to H-Town Tiger
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they are TEMPORARY.
And this is where you are lost.
They can be slightly temporary, or they can can be in a lengthy state of temporary existence.
What happens between now and November 30 or whatever date determines all of that context.
There is no reason to keep O on staff AFTER being fired. Especially still running the program and recruiting.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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At this point, you people are fricking embarrassing. Eds no longer the problem, woody is.
I'm going to need you to explain to me the mental gymnastics to place the blame for this on Woodward.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There is no reason to keep O on staff AFTER being fired
So who should take over for him? You keep saying this but have yet to say who should be the interim coach.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:14 pm to LSUlefty
6-6
Should have been 10-2
Should have been 10-2
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:26 pm to la_birdman
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So who should take over for him?
You have a staff full of alphas who would love a chance show off a bit.
Let me ask you this, why fire him with full payout, 5 games into the season, and allow him to keep coaching?
If its true the staff and players don't respect him, its unconscionable to do it. Why even fire him at this point if you plan to keep him??? Do you think that will motivate him? Recruiting get better? Player retention? All have gotten worse.
What was the benefit of having him fired this early with the knowledge he is going to finish the season?? It makes zero sense. Do it now, or do it later.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You have a staff full of alphas who would love a chance show off a bit.
Give a name. It won't be the OC or the DC. They're a hard enough time being their respective positions.
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Let me ask you this, why fire him with full payout, 5 games into the season, and allow him to keep coaching?
Maybe because there's not a coach who can take over?
You can't even name a realistic one. quote:
What was the benefit of having him fired this early with the knowledge he is going to finish the season?
Well if nothing else it puts to bed the speculation of is he or isn't he coming back next year. For the players and the fans alike. Even recruits. You're going to lose some, no doubt.
Maybe he's still recruiting, I honestly don't know.
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Do it now, or do it later.
They are.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:36 pm to la_birdman
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re: We're going 4-8 aren't we?Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You have a staff full of alphas who would love a chance show off a bit.
Give a name.
Choose one. Woodward didn't ask.
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Let me ask you this, why fire him with full payout, 5 games into the season, and allow him to keep coaching?
Maybe because there's not a coach who can take over?
Worse than a lame duck, who has nothing to hold him accountable from here on out?
You can't even give a name of a realistic option.
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What was the benefit of having him fired this early with the knowledge he is going to finish the season?
Well if nothing else it puts to bed the speculation of is he or isn't he coming back next year.
Woodward isn't doing that. He's not making things worse just to pacify screaming social media nerds.
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Maybe he's still recruiting, I honestly don't know.
We have lost recruits since it was announced.
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Do it now, or do it later.
They are
No. They did both, which creates a massive gap. Hence, where we are.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:38 pm to Damone
quote:Ed O supporters made Joe Alleva hire him? Damn didn't know that.
Will end up being the worst record in decades.
Thanks a lot, Ed and his supporters.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:38 pm to la_birdman
Hoping we get another win besides Monroe. But it could be 5-7.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Choose one. Woodward didn't ask.
I'm not the one flipping out because he's still coaching. Do I think he needs to be gone now? Yes
You're the one who is angry that he's still there and asking why and what for and it's an indictment on Woodward and
Energy is gone and all that stuff. If you want him gone today, who takes over for him? Can you give a name for a realistic interim?
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You can't even give a name of a realistic option.
I'm not the one questioning it. I asked you.
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We have lost recruits since it was announced.
Yes we have.
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Hence, where we are.
So who takes over for him? Who should Woodward give the interim coach tag to?
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Pete Thamel
@PeteThamel
A source familiar with the situation at LSU: “It’s one of those things where no one wanted to be there anymore. The players didn’t want to play for him, the coaches didn’t want to coach for him.”
9:05 AM · Oct 17, 2021·Twitter Web App
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Ross Dellenger
@RossDellenger
Orgeron is 49-17 at #LSU but is 9-8 since the championship. However, this goes beyond on-field results.
A strained relationship between coach & administration - rooted in team management & public/private behavior - has warped into an untenable situation, distrust & outbursts.
Again, what kind of thinking would keep this around the program?
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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what kind of thinking would keep this around the program?
You're going on about two different things.
1. There is obviously a disconnect between Ed and the players. Not disagreeing with that.
2. He's fired but he's still there. Why? You're questioning the reasoning but you'll agree that if he is tossed out today, hypothetically, that someone has to be an interim head coach, yes? Who would that person be?
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:54 pm to la_birdman
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Who would that person be?
Someone on staff would jump on it. Can't be worse than Ed.
The idea that no one wanted it is bullshite, because the staff learned about this when we did.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Someone on staff would jump on it
Who? Can you give a name or are we just going to draw names from a hat?
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Can't be worse than Ed.
So why the urgency to get rid of him? 4 more games and he's gone.
Again, I'm not clamoring for him to be here one second longer but unless there's a suitable interim head coach, getting all ticked off over something that you have no control over is pretty ridiculous.
4 more games and he's gone.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 4:59 pm to LSUlefty
No we are going 6-6. Some how, some way this team will beat either Arky or A&M. They will then extend our agony by playing in a crappy bowl
Posted on 10/27/21 at 5:00 pm to la_birdman
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So why the urgency to get rid of him? 4 more games and he's gone.
Player retention
Player recruitment
Toxic environment gone.
There are no reasons to fire him in October and allow him to keep coaching, under the circumstances in which he signed. If he was the major problem, it carries far more risk than any perceived value.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 5:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If he was the major problem, it carries far more risk than any perceived value.
I'm not disagreeing with that but you also have to factor in who is a qualified interim head coach.
There's not a qualified coach that could step in on staff. Ensminger? He's tried to retire like 3 times. Raymond? I don't know if he'd do it. I don't think he showed much interest in that when Miles was fired.
Not just some 'alpha' that would 'jump on it.' That's how we got in this fix in the first place.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 10/27/21 at 5:14 pm to la_birdman
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a qualified interim head coach.
What was Orgeron doing? How much do we really need? All you need is someone to coordinate, and it sounds like that wasnt being done at all and O didn't appear involved with any input during games. Staff at ops handles the nuts and bolts. This could be a fantastic opportunity for some young guy make an impression.
We are rudderless now with a captain many think is toxic and do not want to work for anyway. Youre just making their lives more miserable.
Probably a worthless conversation. Real life isn't what we hear in the media. Could be some drunken bet Woody and Ed had. Who knows what's actually going on
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 10/27/21 at 5:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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All you need is someone to coordinate
Which we don't have. On either side of the ball. They're having a hard enough time being the coordinators.
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it sounds like that wasnt being done at all and O didn't appear involved with any input during games.
I agree. He's also responsible for the staff that he has (for the most part).
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This could be a fantastic opportunity for some young guy make an impression.
For 4 games? And he's going to start with the meat of the schedule? And if he's successful (hypothetically), we promote from within, again?
That's how we got here in the first place.
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Youre just making their lives more miserable.
I'm not doing anything. If it were up to me, he'd be gone now. But it's not up to me and it's not up to you.
Screaming about it isn't going to change anything.
Unless you meant to say Ed is making their lives more miserable. I agree with that.
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