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re: “(We want to) let Dave (Aranda) run his total package. You know, he’s been limited in some

Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93674 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:20 pm to
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you can't blame O for something that Les Miles created. 

So, Orgeron doesn't deserve credit for the 10 wins as head coach, right? I mean, Miles created it.

Wait, or is it 9 wins to you since you probably still think O was hired in late January?

And I suppose Miles gets credited for the '17 recruiting class since he created that too. And Dave Aranda, Corey Raymond, Dennis Johnson. shite, what part of the team did O create then?
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:25 pm to
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're a typical O hater. You blame O for the Moo State and Troy State losses, and even Moffit for not getting the team strong enough. Is that not dumb or what


ed orgeron's entire head coaching career is built upon shite losses
literally his entire career

the mountain top of his head coaching career is beating a 4 loss auburn team

the best season he has ever had as a head coach is 1 game better than Miles' worst season ever at lsu.

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Nonetheless, Einstein, we lost both of those games because first, all our key players couldn't play in those two games due to injury, and second because the team O inherited last year from Les Miles didn't have nearly enough depth on it. 


lsu= 52 4 and 5 star players
troy= zero 4 star players

you mean to tell me ed orgeron needs a 52 4 star player to 0 gap to beat a Sunbelt team?
pathetic

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 whose fault is that O or Les Miles' fault. Well, let's see, we can't blame O for creating the situation because he wasn't the coach yet. However, we can blame Les Miles because he is the culprit who created the damn situation, to begin with. 


so miles gets the credit for record breaking 2016 offense, the bowl win, the 2017 class, and the auburn win right?

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Indeed, we lost both those games last year to Moo State and Troy State because Les Miles left O high and dry on depth. Yet like a loon you blame O and Moffit. Give me a break.





yeah because o is a bad head coach. for 29 of his 32 year career no ad thought enough of his coaching to offer him a coordinator's job offer, let alone a head coaching job.

Miles not getting an offer for 18 months= proof he is a shite coach

O not even getting coordinator offers for almost a decade = great coach

youre a clown
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:37 pm to
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we lost both those games last year to Moo State and Troy State because Les Miles left O high and dry on depth.


But we had the depth to beat Auburn, the same team that beat both of the teams that played for the national championship? Or was depth not a problem that day?
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:51 pm to
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Dream on, moonbat.


The more you post, the deeper you dig that hole you're in.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:53 pm to
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youre a clown.


Yes he is. That's why I refer to him as SpaceClownboy.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23378 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:55 pm to
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have no idea why you'd have any concerns about or question the work Aranda has done on that side of the ball.


I don't think anyone is questioning Aranda. They are questioning the head coach and his sycophant, Tiger Ree.

Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:00 pm to
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But we had the depth to beat Auburn,


Sure because all the key players that had been injured had returned back to playing by that time. Indeed, that's why O went 6 & 1 the rest of the season because those players that were out for Moo State and Troy State were back playing again. However, we couldn't rotate players like a lot of LSU teams in the past did because again there wasn't enough depth on the team. Meanwhile, that situation was not created by O, but he inherited that situation from his predecessor Les Miles. Hence, since it is unfair to blame people who are not guilty of creating that problem, I blame Les Miles for those two losses because he is the one who actually created the problem.

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Or was depth not a problem that day?


The lack of depth problem we had all year last year did not come into play because none of those key players who had returned back to playing got re-injured again. Nonetheless, we were very thin last year, but we lucked out in the second half of the season as we didn't really have any more injuries.
Posted by Tiger in Tampa
Illinois
Member since Jul 2008
159 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:08 pm to
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O inherited that team last year that had a serious deficit in depth.


Did O have anything to do with depth issue since recruiting was a major responsibility of his during the last years of Les?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:22 pm to
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Sure because all the key players that had been injured had returned back to playing by that time. Indeed, that's why O went 6 & 1 the rest of the season because those players that were out for Moo State and Troy State were back playing again


Well those 6 wins accrue to Miles, by your logic, since the losses were his fault.

He doesn't get credit for the USC wins because those accrue to Lane Kiffin.

So he's still 10-25. Putrid record. Why is he the HC at LSU again?
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 6:27 pm
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54548 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:24 pm to
Yea that win vs Auburn last season was a good win for miles.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:42 pm to
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Sure because all the key players that had been injured had returned back to playing by that time. Indeed, that's why O went 6 & 1 the rest of the season because those players that were out for Moo State and Troy State were back playing again. However, we couldn't rotate players like a lot of LSU teams in the past did because again there wasn't enough depth on the team. Meanwhile, that situation was not created by O, but he inherited that situation from his predecessor Les Miles. Hence, since it is unfair to blame people who are not guilty of creating that problem, I blame Les Miles for those two losses because he is the one who actually created the problem



are you saying O needs a 52-0 4 and 5 star advantage to beat a sunbelt team that couldnt beat south alabama?

you dont even realize you're shitting on O.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:42 pm to
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2019 article will read: “Dave Aranda implementing the remaining 20% of his defensive playbook. We were very basic the first 4 years...” 2020 article will read: “Steve Ensminger is implementing the next 6% of his offensive playbook. We only ran 7 plays last year because we were young and the scheme is complex.” Meanwhile in Athens: True freshmen QB and RB lead Dawgs to third straight playoff appearance.

Yep.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:43 pm to
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Did O have anything to do with depth issue since recruiting was a major responsibility of his during the last years of Les?


It's easy to see why it is the dumbest people on the Rant that are O haters.

In any event, genius, O didn't become the recruiting coordinator until Frank Wilson resigned on January 19, 2016, and just before signing day.

Moreover, moonbat, the recruiting coordinator doesn't make any decisions regarding who to recruit and who not to recruit. Those decisions are made by the head coach.

However, the recruiting coordinator issues assignments per the head coach's instructions to the assistant coaches and keeps track of everything about who is being recruited, who is not being recruited, how many times those recruits have been visited, etc., etc., etc. for the head coach.

Anyway, I know you don't care about any of this because all you want to do is blame and hate coach O, as truth to you, just like all the other coach O haters, don't matter.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:44 pm to
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Well those 6 wins accrue to Miles, by your logic, since the losses were his fault. 

He doesn't get credit for the USC wins because those accrue to Lane Kiffin. 

So he's still 10-25. Putrid record. Why is he the HC at LSU again?



he is readily admitting that a 45 -0 4 and 5 star advantage isnt enough to beat a sunbelt team that struggled to beat idaho,new mexico state and akron.

Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:44 pm to
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Meanwhile, that situation was not created by O, but he inherited that situation from his predecessor Les Miles.

How do you explain all the OL departures AFTER 2016?
Les called them and said they should leave?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93674 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:45 pm to
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the recruiting coordinator doesn't make any decisions regarding who to recruit and who not to recruit. Those decisions are made by the head coachy. 

So, you're saying that Orgeron had nothing to do with the '17 signing class then.
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O didn't become the recruiting coordinator until Frank Wilson resigned on January 19, 2016, and just before signing day.

Well, since you didn't know when Orgeron got hired, how can I trust that you have this date correct?
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:47 pm to
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Yea that win vs Auburn last season was a good win for miles.

Les DID buy the groceries, so by Space Cowboy’s logic, LES won this game.
Bet he won’t say that, though. Les only gets losses.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93674 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:48 pm to
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How do you explain all the OL departures AFTER 2016? 
Les called them and said they should leave?

I'm hoping he will answer you because you're gonna laugh your arse off if he does.
Posted by Tiger in Tampa
Illinois
Member since Jul 2008
159 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:51 pm to
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Those decisions are made by the head coach.


So you agree with me...the buck stops with the head coach. I thought it would be harder to win this argument, but, nah. Thanks for making my original point. You’re dismissed
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:57 pm to
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Tiger in Tampa


youre arguing with a poster that just makes shite up out of the blue.


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