re: We should claim the 2011 National Title

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Unfortunately the majority of people that had voting authority, didn't seem to share your opinion.

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It was much closer than you think. In the coaches poll OSU was 4 or lower on a handful of ballots and that pulled them down, if they were no lower than 3rd on those iirc they would have been in.

While I 100% agree LSUs admin needs to be more committed and we DEFINITELY need a better coach. That’s not really relevant to the discussion. Now please note I’m not saying LSU should declare ourselves 2011 National Champs ala 2017 UCF. But I will always argue that we got screwed in 2011 by having to play a rematch against a team that we beat AT THEIR STADIUM. It doesn’t matter that we didn’t dominate, we won.

As for the majority of voters I could care less, they are using a completely subjective standard of “eyeball” test or “best” team. It’s a flawed system. Humans are biased, not in the way fans are, but if they picked Alabama in the preseason they are more likely to pick them at the end than a team that started 9 and as always been the case with polls losing later drops you and OSU last later. The computers which are not biased had OSU #2 as did the blind resume test. Name brand played a major role. Like I asked earlier if it was Oklahoma or Texas instead of Ok St who would have been in?

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While I 100% agree LSUs admin needs to be more committed

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you complete me

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none of your above things can happen without an administration dedicated and going all in on football. it's literally what separates Bama and everyone else(not just lsu)

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Using Alabama as a benchmark is not a good idea. Yeah they give Saban all he wants but that’s not necessarily needed to have a championship program. What he’s built there is the greatest dynasty in CFB history an is unlikely to be replicated anywhere even if the admin gives a blank check.

LSU was in a lot worse shape when Saban got here and he won a NC in 4 years and had recruited enough talent for 3 top 5 finishes and another NC from 05-07. Had he stayed he may have won 2 in that stretch. Miles was then able to recruit a championship caliber team that also went 34-6 from 10-12 and if not for Saban at Bama would have won at least 1 and maybe 2 NC. The 10 and 11 teams finished in the top 10 12 fell out after losing the bowl on a last second FG. Now there are many reasons why the program started to slide after that, I’d argue the biggest was more about Miles failure to adapt in many areas, more than lack of admiration support. We did have the highest paid staff under Miles and the recruiting budget thing I think is a tad overrated it’s cheaper for LSU to get to New Orleans and Houston than it is for Alabama. Tennessee has a bigger budget again because of greater travel expenses without the results.

The lack of administrative support really on manifested itself lately starting with the Nutrition Center but then with the firing of Miles. If we believe the reports they were willing to pay Herman and Fisher a lot more than O, I don’t think Herman didn’t come because the admin rejected it.

I didn't say that they didn't belong, I said that they looked like they didn't belong. Several teams looked much more competent in their bowl games, after 4-6 weeks to prepare.

You keep saying we got screwed ... how exactly did we get screwed????? Because you think Okie st. Would have been a gimmie win??? Would you say Bama got screwed if the roles were reversed???? I also agree that Bama should not have gotten in. I also say that a game with Okie St. would have been very tough and it's no sure thing we beat them....

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Now there are many reasons why the program started to slide after that, I’d argue the biggest was more about Miles failure to adapt in many areas, 

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agreed

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more than lack of admiration support.

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agreed but once you find a special coach, an administration going all in is necessary to maintain an elite program. we don't have that here.

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Miles and the recruiting budget thing I think is a tad overrated it’s cheaper for LSU to get to New Orleans and Houston than it is for Alabama

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agreed but there is no excuse for bama's recruiting budget being 8 TIMES what lsu's is.
let's also not forget that Bama is right next to Florida and Georgia, 2 hotbeds for cfb talent

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Tennessee has a bigger budget again because of greater travel expenses without the results. 

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right but tenn has to get oos recruits.

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We did have the highest paid staff

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are you sure it wasn't just the highest paid coordinators?

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lack of administrative support really on manifested itself lately starting with the Nutrition Center but then with the firing of Miles. If we believe the reports they were willing to pay Herman and Fisher a lot more than O, I don’t think Herman didn’t come because the admin rejected it.

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right but our administration kept miles after 2015 because of optics.i don't believe the Bama administration would do that

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I also say that a game with Okie St. would have been very tough and it's no sure thing we beat them....

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no team that couldn't stop the run was beating that lsu team.


they gave up 365 yards rushing to Tulsa.
the 2011 lsu team shut down offenses just as good as OSU that year

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but if Bama and LSU switched roles and LSU did get in, would you say Bama got screwed?????

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yes. I'm of the opinion that if you can't call yourself the sec champ, you can't call yourself the national champ.

Name me one team that had a better offense than Okie st . That we played that year... Oregon maybe??? Maybe??????