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re: We got a Break on the Interference Call
Posted on 3/12/11 at 9:48 am to tigahbait62
Posted on 3/12/11 at 9:48 am to tigahbait62
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This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 10:42 pm
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 9:59 am to msutiger
Did you miss A.R. 3 in your post?
No way he can field that ball properly. As well as in your first picture contact is beginning and the ball is still within a step. Hell its under his foot. Since when is momentum or physics taken into the rules? It isnt by definition he is within a step and a reach.
Or or you saying the step and a reach is a judgement call?? By your own rule he is in fact within the act.
Unless you want to link the rule that states rules are not taken literally and that physics is taken into consideration.
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A.R. 3: After a fielder has misplayed a batted ball and the ball is “within a step and a reach”
the fielder is still considered “in the act
No way he can field that ball properly. As well as in your first picture contact is beginning and the ball is still within a step. Hell its under his foot. Since when is momentum or physics taken into the rules? It isnt by definition he is within a step and a reach.
Or or you saying the step and a reach is a judgement call?? By your own rule he is in fact within the act.
Unless you want to link the rule that states rules are not taken literally and that physics is taken into consideration.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:24 am to Catman88
Hes not within a step and reach, if you think he is, then nobody can explain it to you because you are such a homer.
Your argument now is:
Yes msutiger you are right, but but but SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THE LAWS OF PHYSICS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
Its just stupid, it was his job to avoid the contact. Atleast the CSF kid attempted to avoid the contact. Jones dropped the ball, he was clearly no longer in the act of trying to field it. If you look from the 1st image to the second image, not only is he clearly making no attempt to avoid the contact and moving away from the ball, the ball is rolling to the outfield. It was the wrong call, clear and simple. You can keep arguing but you're wrong, he was not within a reach or step of the ball.
Your argument now is:
Yes msutiger you are right, but but but SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THE LAWS OF PHYSICS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
Its just stupid, it was his job to avoid the contact. Atleast the CSF kid attempted to avoid the contact. Jones dropped the ball, he was clearly no longer in the act of trying to field it. If you look from the 1st image to the second image, not only is he clearly making no attempt to avoid the contact and moving away from the ball, the ball is rolling to the outfield. It was the wrong call, clear and simple. You can keep arguing but you're wrong, he was not within a reach or step of the ball.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:26 am to msutiger
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. Atleast the CSF kid attempted to avoid the contact.
Sorry, I just didn't see this at all.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:28 am to msutiger
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We got a Break on the Interference Call
Make up call
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:32 am to msutiger
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he was not within a reach or step of the ball.
If you look at the pictures you just posted and reverse JJ step he is clearly within one step of the ball. Contact appears to be initated in first pic and in full contact in second. Both pics JJ is one of his steps of the ball. After they both are on the ground he clearly is more than one step away.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:33 am to stonedbegonias
are you blind or do you just not want to see it. Look at the way he is slanted in the first image with his right foot fimly planted as to move quickly to the left. Look at the distance the CSF runner is from the infield grass in the first image compared to the second image. You can see it, you just dont want to see it
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:34 am to msutiger
The ball is CLEARLY under his foot in the fist picture where contact is beginning. I cant help you if you cant see that in the still picture. The video looks a lot more like Jones is at fault however you are using picture that shows the ball within a step and a reach of the fielder. Hell the ball died on the spot too. Even after contact the ball was a step and a reach from him.
If the ball is within a step and a reach then Jones DOES NOT have to avoid contact as defined by the rule.
PLEASE define a step and a reach for a 6 foot 3 player.
FACT the avg step of a 6 foot person is around 35 inches. So make that 37 or so for Jones. Now add a reach. Arm span would be his height so take half that for a 1 arm reach.
Step + Reach = approx 74.5 inches.
Now answer this question. Is the ball within 6 feet 2.5 inches from Jones? Yes or no?
If the ball is within a step and a reach then Jones DOES NOT have to avoid contact as defined by the rule.
PLEASE define a step and a reach for a 6 foot 3 player.
FACT the avg step of a 6 foot person is around 35 inches. So make that 37 or so for Jones. Now add a reach. Arm span would be his height so take half that for a 1 arm reach.
Step + Reach = approx 74.5 inches.
Now answer this question. Is the ball within 6 feet 2.5 inches from Jones? Yes or no?
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:37 am to Catman88
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Now answer this question. Is the ball within 6 feet 2.5 inches from Jones? Yes or no?
yes, what do I win?
This post was edited on 3/12/11 at 10:38 am
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:41 am to Catman88
Alright then lets say he is within a step of the ball. By the rule he has to be attempting to pick the ball. He doesnt seem to be making any attempt to pick up the ball. If hes not attempting to field the ball hes no longer in the act, therefor its his job to avoid the contact. Had he made an attempt to field the ball and the CSF and they just collided, that would be interference. But, the fact he put his shoulder into the CSF runner showed he had no intent to avoid the contact and no intent to retrieve the ball before the contact was made
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:46 am to LeagueCityTiger
quote:Baseball coach or not ..you are an idiot to think that the oncoming baserunner didnt impede the players ability to cleanly field the ball.
This is not intereference. The baserunner did not impede the fielder's ability to make a play.
I played basball and had a similiar incident happen to me when the other outfielder ran right in front of me on a routine pop up.
It does distract you, you even see it in pro baseball.
I think you made this post in a rush to judgement or just wanted some attention.
Guess you succeeded.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:51 am to msutiger
Like I said on the video it looks more suspect. However He never had the ability to step to the ball and reach for it because of the collision. The problem with the video is that its in slow mo. This all happened in real time.
Its a judgement call more than anything and happened bang bang not at such a slow pace. Could have gone either way but I think the fact that the ball died and wasnt in the outfield may have played into the decision. I also dont see the CSF player avoiding contact. He flenched right before contact but thats not avoidance. Thats bracing for impact. Had he slid or gave up running I would see that as the runner avoiding contact.
Overall it was a judgement call. Could be considered correct with call going either way.
Its a judgement call more than anything and happened bang bang not at such a slow pace. Could have gone either way but I think the fact that the ball died and wasnt in the outfield may have played into the decision. I also dont see the CSF player avoiding contact. He flenched right before contact but thats not avoidance. Thats bracing for impact. Had he slid or gave up running I would see that as the runner avoiding contact.
Overall it was a judgement call. Could be considered correct with call going either way.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:54 am to Catman88
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Overall it was a judgement call. Could be considered correct with call going either way.
Thank you for being reasonable
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:58 am to msutiger
msutiger got owned
Posted on 3/12/11 at 10:59 am to msutiger
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Holy shite this fan base is stupid sometimes
Same could be said for those want to argue judgement calls or what is and what isn't a step.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 11:00 am to msutiger
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I've read a lot of posts in this thread, and from what I can tell after watching the replay, it's really just a complete judgement call. So it makes sense that both sides are pretty well represented in this thread.
But in real time, that call is going to be made 9/10 times, like LE said. Just based off of the collision alone, it's instinct for an umpire to make that call.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 11:03 am to SMD
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msutiger got owned
how so? The guy came to admit it was a judgement call.
I came to argue against the people that were saying it was absolutely the right call
SMD=clueless dumbass
Posted on 3/12/11 at 11:14 am to LeagueCityTiger
No offense, but you are wrong. You shouldn't feel bad, it's not a common play/call.
The rules specifically state that the correct call was made. I have no idea how this thread has reached this many pages. That same call will be made 10/10 times in every league, Dixie to MLB.
It could have all been avoided had the runner stopped before the ball and/or ran behind Jones like he is coached to do and the NCAA rules encourage him to do.
The rules specifically state that the correct call was made. I have no idea how this thread has reached this many pages. That same call will be made 10/10 times in every league, Dixie to MLB.
It could have all been avoided had the runner stopped before the ball and/or ran behind Jones like he is coached to do and the NCAA rules encourage him to do.
This post was edited on 3/12/11 at 11:22 am
Posted on 3/12/11 at 11:29 am to JPLSU1981
he tried to....but whatever this battle has been fought no reason to start it again
Posted on 3/12/11 at 11:34 am to LeagueCityTiger
home field advantage?
seems like two games now with a pro-LSU call making a big difference.
life goes on. both teams will be in the playoffs.
hopefully they will meet in Omaha on neutral field.
seems like two games now with a pro-LSU call making a big difference.
life goes on. both teams will be in the playoffs.
hopefully they will meet in Omaha on neutral field.
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