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re: Watched the game again last night..........
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:16 am to ellis1975
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:16 am to ellis1975
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I'm at the point where I would like to see JL but it would not sit well with fans if we found out that JL really is the same player he was 2 yrs ago.
Only one way to find out and hand-offs are not it.
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Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:16 am to Chicot
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Chicot
Great posts
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:18 am to ellis1975
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I have gotten to a point where I'm no longer disappointed in JJ's shortcomings at the QB spot, but rather feel kinda bad for this kid. He is probably trying as hard as he can but he just doesn't seem to be progressing into what the team really needs.
I agree.
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I'm at the point where I would like to see JL but it would not sit well with fans if we found out that JL really is the same player he was 2 yrs ago.
How will we ever know if he is or isn't if we don't ever play him? And even if he is the same player, I would still prefer it over what we have now. Yes would have to put up with some INTs but we would score more points. And our defense is much better now than it was in 2008, so there is no guarantee that the INTs would result in as many points as they did in 2008. I say let's see what JL's got.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:19 am to texastigerr
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Because he is not a good quarterback
Because he is incapable
Because he is not D1 caliber
Because he is hasn't got the vision or poise to make the reads
Because the only way he can complete a pass is if the receiver is wide open and he has the time to lock on to him
Because he doesn't have the release to get the ball out
Because he doesn't have the ability to step up in the pocket to avoid the rush and get more time
Pick one.
That's a tough list to choose from...Perhaps- all of the above.
Completion Percentage keeps getting used to defend him. Isn't he rated at 90something out of 116 in Div 1?
Everyone just needs to face it, he's not going to live up to expectations, and Lee is perhaps a worse choice overall (interceptions).
We will win games with defense and lose games where we get behind and need offensive production. Every win is going to look ugly and if we get some breaks we can win out. But we aren't going to be able to hang 40 on people.
I am just going to try and enjoy the games and realize that this is the best offense LSU is capable of. I'll be a Tiger Fan long after JJ is gone, and hopefully Gary Crowton will be gone soon as well.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:20 am to Chicot
If everyone is that worried about Lee throwing Ints, just put PP as the second receiver on the side with the primary receiver. That way, if the ball is intercepted, PP is there to wrap it up. 
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:20 am to Broham
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Tiger Lunatic
Thanks.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:21 am to Broham
I watched it last night too.
I saw him scan the field on plenty of occasions...
I saw him scan the field on plenty of occasions...
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:22 am to OBUDan
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I saw him scan the field on plenty of occasions...
The OP was talking about the LSU vs. MSU game. Just to be clear.
You must be talking about a different one.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:24 am to Tiger Ryno
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They are giving him one read and telling him to get what he can or throw it away if it isn't there.
The only time he'll have more than one read is on a rollout where they run three routes to teh same side at different yardage.
This is just not true. Pretty simple.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:25 am to Dead Fish
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If JJ is too dumb as you insinuate, then why hasn't the coaching staff made JL the starter?
Hey Mr. Fish, if you would have seen Tom Hodson in high school looking over the field and finding an open receiver you would know that JJ is a below avergage QB. But if that's all we got .....
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:26 am to Chicot
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The OP was talking about the LSU vs. MSU game. Just to be clear.
You must be talking about a different one.
Nope.
If I could take GIFs for you, I would.
I'm not saying he's Peyton Manning out there, but the guy looked through his progressions multiple times... he hit check downs on more than one occasion after his first reads weren't there...
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:26 am to CWGriswald
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Hey Mr. Fish, if you would have seen Tom Hodson in high school looking over the field and finding an open receiver you would know that JJ is a below avergage QB. But if that's all we got .....
We'll never know I guess. Miles is attached at the hip to Jefferson.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:27 am to OBUDan
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This is just not true. Pretty simple
I love how people make shite up to validate their wrong ideas.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:28 am to amiznit
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I love how people make shite up to validate their wrong ideas.
I don't know if you are agreeing with me or downing me.
But if you are agreeing
If downing
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:28 am to Chicot
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Wow, I guess you were absent the day they tought reading comprehension at school. The OP didn't say "many times JJ can't complete a pass". Which is all your post addresses is his pass completion percentage. Yes JJ was 10 for 16. Which means that he only through...get this...16 times. How many times did he drop back to throw? Here's a hint...It was more than 16 times. Which means that several times he didn't throw it because he looked to one receiver, then took off running when that one receiver was not open. He didn't say that JJ can't complete a pass when that one WR is open. Just that JJ seldom looks for the 2nd receiver.
Actually you Chicot stump jumper I forgot more about reading comprehension than you ever learned at Chicot High School, but nevertheless the passing attempts are very relevant because they demonstrate that the OP doesn’t know his arse from a hole in the ground. A couple of other times he was rolled out and given the option to either run it for a first down or pass it, where he ran it for a first down, and then there were a couple of other times when he was running for his life where there was a receiver open but he couldn’t get his body around to make the throw and thus he was forced to run it. Furthermore, had it been his backup in those situations instead of JJ, it would have been a sack instead of a positive gain. In any event, no matter what the OP said it wasn’t close to “many times,” which proves that not only is the OP a dumb arse, but you are one as well.
This post was edited on 9/23/10 at 9:55 am
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:28 am to CWGriswald
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then why hasn't the coaching staff made JL the starter?
Because Les has been on record many times calling JJ the best QB on the team etc. Les has constantly defended and pumped up JJ.
If Les made the change it would be admitting he was wrong all along.
Also they are probably concerned about damaging what fragile confidence JJ might have.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:33 am to OBUDan
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I don't know if you are agreeing with me or downing me.
But if you are agreeing
If downing
Sorry. Agreeing. I'm on team OBUDan (at least on this one point).
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:35 am to Broham
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His passer rating could've been perfect. It still has nothing to do what I'm talking about. He looks at one receiver then takes off running when other receivers are OPEN. That has nothing to do with his completion percentage.
Actually he did that plenty of times last season, but the fact of the matter is he didn’t do it “many times” last Saturday like you claimed he did and like the facts demonstrate otherwise. You have exactly zero credibility. Not only that, but you also don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:35 am to ItTakesAThief
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JJ is somewhat successful because he has very good players around.
JJ does not bring much to the table to make the team "better".
He is serviceable at best.
THIS. I'm sick of reading why this is. Either its the coaching or the player or a combination of the 2. Who cares.
Bottom line JJ shows very little progress and its safe to say that his style of play wont get it done when you face the top teams in our league.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 9:36 am to amiznit
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Sorry. Agreeing. I'm on team OBUDan (at least on this one point).
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