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re: Was this ever explained why this was not called for intentional grounding?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:13 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:13 pm to Adam Banks
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Surely you can find a print version of this.
I'll get you one as soon as you pull those clips for me.
I'm sorry you're too dense to grasp what I'm telling you.
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:15 pm to 62zip
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What rule is 5 yards?
Part 2 section 7 number 6.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:15 pm to 62zip
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I'll get you one as soon as you pull those clips for me.
No I’ll just use the rule book.
Something you have little knowledge of.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:17 pm to OceanMan
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Do you understand the concept of the word “ground”?
Help me understand, since we're defining "ground," what part of a defender constitutes the ground?
As I stated before, but a couple of y'all can't seem to grasp it - if you throw the ball into a defender's hands there will not be an ING flag, period, just like the example I gave above regarding ineligibles downfield.
It's not that hard if you want to try to understand it, but being an obtuse smartass makes that a little more difficult.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:18 pm to Adam Banks
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No I’ll just use the rule book.
Something you have little knowledge of.
So then obviously you are too ignorant to understand rules interpretations and officiating philosophies.
And I would put my knowledge of the rule book up against your dumb arse anytime.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:19 pm to 62zip
As a supposed “official”
You have yet to cite a single rule from the rulebook.
Typical ref just making it up as you go.
You have yet to cite a single rule from the rulebook.
Typical ref just making it up as you go.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:21 pm to OceanMan
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Part 2 section 7 number 6.
There is no rule 2-7-6 in the NCAA football rule book. It goes up to 2-7-3
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:22 pm to 62zip
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Help me understand, since we're defining "ground," what part of a defender constitutes the ground?
The ground would be the ground. The part with grass and dirt.
Sorry are we not talking m about the penalty “intentional grounding”?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:22 pm to Adam Banks
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As a supposed “official”
You have yet to cite a single rule from the rulebook.
Typical ref just making it up as you go.
Your reading comprehension sucks. I've explained it to you. Choose to understand it or not.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:23 pm to OceanMan
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The ground would be the ground. The part with grass and dirt.
Sorry are we not talking m about the penalty “intentional grounding”?
Yep, I know what the ground is, what part of the ground is a defensive player?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:29 pm to 62zip
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There is no rule 2-7-6 in the NCAA football rule book. It goes up to 2-7-3
Part II officiating standards
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:31 pm to 62zip
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Yep, I know what the ground is, what part of the ground is a defensive player?
The ball is not grounded, if it is in a players possession and thus not on the ground.
The ground. It’s the stuff below your feet. In football, Intentional grounding means putting it there instead of someone else’s hands or arms
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:34 pm to GumboPot
because the Refs were HORRIBLE.
but LSU beat them, too... LSU is 2-0 after week one....
Klubnik legitimately got away with at least 2 grounding penalties.
but LSU beat them, too... LSU is 2-0 after week one....
Klubnik legitimately got away with at least 2 grounding penalties.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:35 pm to OceanMan
OFFICIATING STANDARDS
FO-4
6. Up to five yards between where a pass lands in bounds and the nearest eligible receiver may be used for determining "in the area" during short passes or when the receiver is relatively stationary on the field. This distance should be increased on long passes and when the receiver is running towards the spot where a pass lands in bounds. When the pass lands out of bounds, an eligible receiver is "in the area" if he is between the top of the numbers and the sideline, or in the end zone, and the pass is thrown over the vicinity of the receiver's head. An eligible receiver shall be deemed "not in the area" no matter where he is positioned when the passer intentionally throws a pass significantly outside of the playing enclosure.
7. If the passer is contacted clearly before starting the passing motion, there will be a foul for intentional grounding if there is no eligible receiver in the vicinity or if the pass does not reach the line of scrimmage after the quarterback has been outside the tackle box.
LINK
FO-4
6. Up to five yards between where a pass lands in bounds and the nearest eligible receiver may be used for determining "in the area" during short passes or when the receiver is relatively stationary on the field. This distance should be increased on long passes and when the receiver is running towards the spot where a pass lands in bounds. When the pass lands out of bounds, an eligible receiver is "in the area" if he is between the top of the numbers and the sideline, or in the end zone, and the pass is thrown over the vicinity of the receiver's head. An eligible receiver shall be deemed "not in the area" no matter where he is positioned when the passer intentionally throws a pass significantly outside of the playing enclosure.
7. If the passer is contacted clearly before starting the passing motion, there will be a foul for intentional grounding if there is no eligible receiver in the vicinity or if the pass does not reach the line of scrimmage after the quarterback has been outside the tackle box.
LINK
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:37 pm to OceanMan
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Part II officiating standards
There is a bit more to it than "5 yards" depending on the length of the pass, whether or not the receiver is stationary, whether it goes out of bounds or is thrown through the end zone etc.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:38 pm to OceanMan
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The ball is not grounded, if it is in a players possession and thus not on the ground.
The ground. It’s the stuff below your feet. In football, Intentional grounding means putting it there instead of someone else’s hands or arms
So then you're agreeing with me? It's kinda tough to tell.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:39 pm to 62zip
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There is a bit more to it than "5 yards" depending on the length of the pass, whether or not the receiver is stationary, whether it goes out of bounds or is thrown through the end zone etc.
All in what quoted above.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:40 pm to OceanMan
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All in what quoted above.
Right, but what you said originally was "five yards."
That's why I asked.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:41 pm to 62zip
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So then you're agreeing with me? It's kinda tough to tell.
Edit: *intentional grounding*, by basic and football definitions, would not occur in an interception. There would obviously not be intentional grounding called on a play that the ball did not hit the ground. If that’s what you mean, yeah, we agree.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:45 pm to 62zip
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Right, but what you said originally was "five yards." That's why I asked.
I really hope I’m misunderstanding you, although it doesn’t seem that way…
Do you agree or not that the 5 yard applies?
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