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re: Was the LSU passing Offense that better in '08 than '09
Posted on 12/14/09 at 10:52 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 12/14/09 at 10:52 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
Hes comparing stats from a two-yr starter, to a freshman who didnt start until the 4th game and trying to say the passing game was better over an entire yr?
i realize jefferson is older than Lee was,(this isn't againest Lee which you can't understand with your hate for Jefferson)
i looked it up because someone posted how last season our passing attack was so much better than it is now
calm the frick down
eta: once again
Robbdouche
This post was edited on 12/14/09 at 10:56 pm
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 10:59 pm to Sammobile
quote:
RobbBobb
You are worst kind of ranter cause you talk shite like a man and run like a bitch would, and don't back your post up. when you're wrong
This post was edited on 12/14/09 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 12/14/09 at 11:02 pm to Sammobile
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i looked it up because someone posted how last season our passing attack was so much better than it is now
Then use the whole damn yr.
JLee was not the starter. He was the #2QB. And thrown under the bus after Hatch went down. Hes an LSU athlete that was booed by immature pricks. But JJ was the starter, for the entire yr, and he produced the worst offense in memory.
And you're defending that. By comparing him to the 2nd string QB from another yr. So your argument is, JJ is proved his worth by producing similar or worse numbers to a 2nd string QB. yeah, right.
You want to compare passing offenses from yr to yr as your thread was titled, then use the whole yr, not just hand-picked stats.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 11:04 pm to Sammobile
2008 - 8 sacks
2009 - 32 sacks wow!!!!!
imagine how better the stats could of been with only 8 sacks this year????
oh well whats done is done, hope that gets fixed in '10
2009 - 32 sacks wow!!!!!
imagine how better the stats could of been with only 8 sacks this year????
oh well whats done is done, hope that gets fixed in '10
Posted on 12/14/09 at 11:04 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
use the whole yr, not just hand-picked stats.
I'd like to see JJ's stats this year and JL's stats this year.
ETA: Only in games started.
This post was edited on 12/14/09 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 12/14/09 at 11:06 pm to drizztiger
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I'd like to see JJ's stats this year and JL's stats this year.
it was interesting cause i thought Lee had better passing numbers(just Yards and Tds) but that's not the case
Posted on 12/15/09 at 12:50 am to Sammobile
RobbBobb Lee was a Redshirt Freshman last year, and was actually (age wise) older than Jefferson is now. And don't act like he was our poor backup who should have never seen the field (I mena he shouldn't have but for RP reasons also he was really bad) but he was in the mix to start the whole year, and Hatch eventually returned and Lee still started.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 1:02 am to SammyTiger
32 sacks.....
well, ill give half those sacks to JJ and half to the Oline. JJ needs to improve on his drops, pocket presence, and indecisiveness. Thats alot to work on, but something that just comes with time and experience and understanding of the offense and play calls. He will get better by next year.
I hope the Oline improves as well but more importantly in the run game, because we must be able to run the football for a Miles team to be successful. In our case we must run to set up the pass. If your the Colts or Saints, you pass to set up the run.
well, ill give half those sacks to JJ and half to the Oline. JJ needs to improve on his drops, pocket presence, and indecisiveness. Thats alot to work on, but something that just comes with time and experience and understanding of the offense and play calls. He will get better by next year.
I hope the Oline improves as well but more importantly in the run game, because we must be able to run the football for a Miles team to be successful. In our case we must run to set up the pass. If your the Colts or Saints, you pass to set up the run.
This post was edited on 12/15/09 at 1:04 am
Posted on 12/15/09 at 2:03 am to RobbBobb
RobbBobb,
if Lee was so good last year (2008), why did hatch beat him out in the spring and the fall?
was hatch a better QB than him?
and lo and behold, he was beaten out again in the spring and the fall this year...
WEIRD!
oh, and you need to grow up.
how old are you anyways honestly?
if Lee was so good last year (2008), why did hatch beat him out in the spring and the fall?
was hatch a better QB than him?
and lo and behold, he was beaten out again in the spring and the fall this year...
WEIRD!
oh, and you need to grow up.
how old are you anyways honestly?
Posted on 12/15/09 at 2:05 am to drizztiger
quote:
I'd like to see JJ's stats this year and JL's stats this year.
JJ 's stats top any post-2000 LSU soph qb I can find.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 2:06 am to Sammobile
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Was the LSU passing Offense that better in '08 than '09
Yes, and anybody who thinks otherwise is a complete and total fricking idiot.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 2:23 am to Doc Fenton
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Yes, and anybody who thinks otherwise is a complete and total fricking idiot.
?
Posted on 12/15/09 at 3:04 am to Sammobile
quote:
Was the LSU passing Offense that better in '08 than '09
2008:
quote:
INT-16
2009:
quote:
INT-6
Yes
Posted on 12/15/09 at 3:07 am to Sammobile
The sacks can be attributed to the Oline
Posted on 12/15/09 at 3:09 am to Doc Fenton
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Yes, and anybody who thinks otherwise is a complete and total fricking idiot.
Nah, they just ignint.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 4:50 am to LSUMafia
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So to recap, without sack yardage,
we lost about 30 yards rushing per game this season. Not as drastic as most people think, but still bad.
Well, some very important hidden yardage was a huge factor in '08:
Opponents' INTs/yards returned--18 for 461.
LSU--8 for 51.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 5:28 am to LSUcajun77
quote:
2008 - 8 sacks
2009 - 32 sacks wow!!!!!
imagine how better the stats could of been with only 8 sacks this year????
Imagine if those "stats," for '08, were actually true? Because THEY'RE NOT.
In 2008, LSU QBs were sacked a total of 24 times in 13 games.
J. Lee had 10 of them, 5 in the 8 games he started.
Hatch had 5, in the 3 games he started.
Jefferson had 9, 6 of them in the 2 games he started.
This post was edited on 12/15/09 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 12/15/09 at 5:48 am to Sammobile
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You are worst kind of ranter cause you talk shite like a man and run like a bitch would, and don't back your post up. when you're wrong
RobbyBobby's back? He's a genius, you know. Just ask him, he loves to be the one to tell you so.
Someone told me (I don't read his posts--and never will--because there are enough insufferable pricks in real life, who needs a "virtual one?") that he was defending J. Lee over JJ, as usual.
You may want to tell him that LSU had three QBs start in the 13 games LSU played in 2008. Lee started 8 of them and played extensive minutes in 3 other games, Hatch started 3 and Jefferson started the last 2 (counting the bowl game).
Also, he claims JJ is a "2-year starter?" He only started the 2008 reg. season finale (a loss to Arky) and the bowl beatdown of GA Tech, in which he earned the Offensive MVP award. He also didn't start a game, which Lee did (and won) this season, and we can all recall just how magical Gen. Lee was in that game, not to mention (oh well, let's mention it anyway) just how awesome Lee was in the 'Bama loss, generating 4 net yards in total offense in the 4th quarter. This dude left the reservation long ago...
This post was edited on 12/15/09 at 6:15 am
Posted on 12/15/09 at 5:54 am to Sammobile
First half of the season last year the passing game was much better than this year. Last half it tanked.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 10:50 am to johnsec
quote:
In 2008, LSU QBs were sacked a total of 22 times in 13 games.
J. Lee had 10 of them, 5 in the 8 games he started.
Hatch had 7, 5 in the 3 games he started.
Jefferson had 9, 6 of them in the 2 games he started
this is just the two main starters
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