re: wafb reporting Martin and ALeva NOT SO FAST we will decide reinstatement

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You know that in substance and for a fact?
Understand there will be BS annihilating f/u questions based upon the answer.

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I am assuming that all athletes are advised of the drug testing policy, just like any employee of any company would be. If they have not been educated about the policy, then the fault lies with the administration and the penalty has to be adjusted accordingly. However, everyone here is making "assumptions" based on what has been made public regarding the suspensions. To assume tha we have the full story is laughable.

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I am assuming that all athletes

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OF COURSE YOU'RE ASSUMING !! . . . so don't post "facts" about 19y/o kids as if you're doing anything else other than "assuming" . . . which translates in this case to guessing.

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That hasn't stopped you from laying down what you think punishment should be

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I've stated my opinion based on what has been made public. If it were my program, and an athlete failed a drug test in-season, he would sit. But if it were my program, the athletes would also be made very much aware of the drug testing policy and ramifications. If there is more to the story than a 1st time failure of a drug test, then my punishment would be revised.

What's laughable are the people saying there should be no punishment ("it's just pot") or those saying the punishment has already been served, when we don't really know what the offense was.

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What's laughable are the people saying there should be no punishment

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Youre tilting at windmills buddy, no one in this thread has said that, and those that do are by far a low %.

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those saying the punishment has already been served, when we don't really know what the offense was.

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Considering that Les has said they are practicing and will play vs Bama barring any setbacks why would u think the punishment has not been served already?

Yeah I guess he could be making them do gases at practice or have put some informal curfew on the guys but for all practical purposes they were punished by sitting out the Auburn game and that is over.

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Considering that Les has said they are practicing and will play vs Bama barring any setbacks why would u think the punishment has not been served already?

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Face it, with Les, those of us who reside outside of the program will never know what's really going on within the program. He keeps tight-lipped (like he should), and says very little of substance. We do know from the RP-experience that he gives players many chances before taking firm action (unless of course he's changed based on the RP-experience ... that we do not know). So we really don't know what rule was broken or how severely.

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I'm leaving Alleva out of this equation

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God that's stupid.


I'm sorry. No other way to put it.


Just stupid.

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I personally think Miles is being left alone to run his program and he would tell Alleva to frick off if he tried to step in.

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If you know anything about the business of athletics, you'll know you just saw Les tell Joe to "frick off" tonight.

CLM handled the issue with class keeping it an internal issue, NCAA says they do not have a dog in the hunt, so please explain why ALeva thinks he is smarter than everyone else.

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They did that to themselves.

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Really?

Did you ever get into a barfight?

Did you ever smoke whacky tobaccky . . . or worse?

Ever commit sodomy perhaps?

Ever have Joe Alleva's office leaking personal info to that effect to the national media? No? Then STFU.

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I think that's exactly what I just said.

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No.
Perhaps you thought that's what you said.
But you actually continued focus on the 19y/o players (who have been harshly penalized), and deflected focus from Joe Alleva (who presumably you and I understand is an abject moron).