re: Urban Meyer dropping knowledge this morning

Just pointing out that the 2 best offenses in the SEC and all of college football have Heisman candidates at QB who were career backups and now balling out.

Neither can run any better than LSU's QBs.

Kinda pokes a major hole in your theory.

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A history of CFB playoff QBs

2014

Marcus Mariotta
JT Barrett/Cardale Jones
Jameis Winston
Blake Sims

2015

Jake Coker
Deshaun Watson
Baker Mayfield
Conor Cook

2016

Jalen Hurts
Jake Browning
Deshaun Watson
JT Barrett

2017

Kelly Bryant
Hurts/Tua
Jake Fromm
Baker

2018

Kyler Murray
Tua
Trevor Lawrence
Ian Book

2019

Burrow
Hurts
Lawrence
Fields

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Here.

How many are traditional pocket passers? 6

25%

That’s easy math

There's a pretty wide gap between being good enough to beat State and Mizzou, and being good enough to make the CFP

I'm just tired of all the bullshite excuses from the Coach O diehards

Florida's offense can score with anyone this year and they're not a "machine" nor do they have a mobile QB. Most NFL teams don't have mobile QBs. You can have a good offense without a running QB, especially with LSU's skill

Haskins couldn’t run, still can’t beat out by Allen

What does nfl Haskins have to do with this


Who, as bad as he is, threw for 50 tds under Urban’s tutelage

I hear you but I also have heard Miles left Orgeron with holes on the roster and he would recruit better blah blah.

Now, we're hearing the same excuses we used to hear when Miles was here and there was a mass exodus of underclassmen every other year.

O has signed, what, 4 classes now? And he won a Natty with mostly Miles recruits. So at some point we need to start pointing the finger at O's players, roster management and overall ability to run a program.

He either is a great recruiter or he isn't. I don't want to hear excuses about not being able to reload well enough to beat Mike Leach and Eli Drinkwitz in their first seasons at each of their respective shitty programs.

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O has signed, what, 4 classes now? And he won a Natty with mostly Miles recruits. So at some point we need to start pointing the finger at O's players, roster management and overall ability to run a program.

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He signed a piss poor class in 2018 combine that with the mass exodus in 2019 and the worst coordinator hire since malveto and you get this year.

There’s obviously some problems in that defensive culture and you don’t have the leaders in the locker room or on the coaching staff to mitigate it.

Coach O quite frankly didn’t navigate this offseason well. I think there’s probably a lot of factors that played into that. Complacency after a national championship. The whirlwind of going through a divorce. Having to coach through zoom meetings while replacing most of your roster and staff.

It’s possible for me to lay some blame at Orgeron’s feet while also believing he can fix it.

So you don't think Cox and Damone are good enough backers to beat Mizzou and State? Both are in Mel Kiper's Top 10 at the position

You don't think Farrell, Ojulari, Ika, Anthony et al are talented enough to beat State and Mizzou, or to hold Auburn from annihilating us?

This goes beyond talent at the point we start losing in the fashion we have. And everyone has had to deal with Covid, turnover, etc. We are poorly coached and the kids are getting away with mentally punting on this season. That's on Ed, plain and simple

I don't know 100% why they aren't playing for him right now. I just know they're clearly not. Anyone with eyes can figure that out, and it's NOT about talent or ability

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He signed a piss poor class in 2018 combine that with the mass exodus in 2019 and the worst coordinator hire since malveto and you get this year.

There’s obviously some problems in that defensive culture and you don’t have the leaders in the locker room or on the coaching staff to mitigate it.

Coach O quite frankly didn’t navigate this offseason well. I think there’s probably a lot of factors that played into that. Complacency after a national championship. The whirlwind of going through a divorce. Having to coach through zoom meetings while replacing most of your roster and staff.

It’s possible for me to lay some blame at Orgeron’s feet while also believing he can fix it.

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might be the best post I've read today

as for fixing it, he gets that benefit of the doubt because of last year. However, I don't have the same confidence. He was lucky a transcendent QB fell into his lap and caught lightning in a bottle with Brady.

I'm not saying he can't do it, but since he brings zero Xs and Os skill to the table he will always be dependent on his coordinator hires and decentralizing power.

You can do that as long as you keep hitting at a high strike rate on coordinator hires after they get plucked away with any flash of success. But judging by O's hiring record, it's hard to be confident he will nail those hires more times than not

The scary thing is he's not skilled enough to know what he's looking at, or else he wouldn't have watched this Defense all fall camp and told everyone they're better than last year's

And yes lack of scholarship players hurt

1st year players & freshmen are volatile

Losing 7 projected starters before the season starts is killer, after you lost 16 to the draft

Like wut