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re: UO question: Who is LSU's biggest Rival?
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:47 am to windriver
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:47 am to windriver
I sure wouldn't mind Tulane getting it's act together again. The baseball super-regional I went to at Tulane was like a football atmosphere.It was unreal!! Have never experienced anything that intense in baseball. Curious how heated a football game would be if they were ever competitive again. The apathy for so long is really a crime what that administration did to their program. It was the orginal University of Louisiana. Not like the pretenders in Lafayette.
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:51 am to DucksflyinPAC
Tulane was the only "real" rival. If you are 45 years old or more you remember the importance of that. Most Tulane alums are from privilaged families and look down on middle class LSU. This kind of attitude stirs up hard feelings. I remember big ceremony before and after the game. Many goofy bets between friends and family. I can also remember benches clearing and all out brawls on the field at the end of several games. Tulane has not been able to compete in recent history so the game has no importance in todays world.
Ole Miss is a top tier rival from the glory days of the late 50's and early 60's but if they are not careful they can become another Tulane as well. Similar kind of privilaged family snobbish attitude as well. This is why Miss State (middle class families)and hates them so
The SEC is trying to make Arkansas our main rival but there is simply no bad blood. This series has been very competitive and both have ruined the other's season but this still remains just another conference game.
Ole Miss is a top tier rival from the glory days of the late 50's and early 60's but if they are not careful they can become another Tulane as well. Similar kind of privilaged family snobbish attitude as well. This is why Miss State (middle class families)and hates them so
The SEC is trying to make Arkansas our main rival but there is simply no bad blood. This series has been very competitive and both have ruined the other's season but this still remains just another conference game.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:53 am to DucksflyinPAC
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DucksflyinPAC
The fact that nobody in this thread can agree speaks to the lack of a real "rival" for LSU.
When our grandparents went to LSU, our rival was undoubtedly Ole Miss. That was back before the Moon landing, when Ole Miss was actually competitive. But they fell off the cliff talent wise, and haven't been relevant since JFK was President. They haven't even won a National Championship (don't pay attention to the banners they hang up).
LSU fans have moved on to hating a rotating cast of characters that include Alabama, Florida, and Auburn. Alabama probably incites the most passionate hatred, but its all directed at Nick Saban...not necessarily the institution. UF/LSU is developing into something that COULD be special, but it might take a couple decades to be considered a rivalry.
Personally, the only school that I currently hate everything about is Ole Miss. They are the most pretentious people on the face of our planet. They legitimately think that having crystal and fine china during a "tailgate" compensates for a shite team, a shite program, and a shite university. But like I said, most years their team shouldn't even be on the same field as LSU. Hard to maintain a rival when you kick a school's teeth in for 3 decades.
Florida is a close second. They have the most unintelligent, bandwagon fan base. For years, Tim Tebow was the only player many of them could name from the team. If you show up to a game in Gainesville for a evening game, you can roll up at 12 noon on GAMEDAY and find a legit spot to tailgate...if you show up at noon in Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa or Auburn on a FRIDAY before a Saturday game, you'll be relegated to the fringes of campus.
Arkansas is developing into something, but until they win anything...its just hard to care. They serve more as a spoiler than a rival. They seriously haven't won a single BCS Championship, SEC Championship, or even a BCS bowl game. Personally, I'd rather kick their arse back to the SWC.
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 7:55 am
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:57 am to DucksflyinPAC
If anybody tells you it's anybody but Satan/Bama, don't believe them. Over time, that may change but as long as Satan is at Bama, that's who we get up for every year more than anybody. Auburn was a blip on last year's radar. The SEC West goes through Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa. Nuff said.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:57 am to PRK
It should be Ole Miss. They have been mediocre, so some fans are actually ashamed to admit that they are our rivals. I for one want them to stay down forever. Never being relevent, never beating us again.
I dont know how it could be Bama, we are at least third at BEST on their list.
Auburn......we will always be second fiddle to Bama on their hatred.
Florida has TN and GA ahead of us.
It really only leaves Ole Miss and Arkansas.
I dont know how it could be Bama, we are at least third at BEST on their list.
Auburn......we will always be second fiddle to Bama on their hatred.
Florida has TN and GA ahead of us.
It really only leaves Ole Miss and Arkansas.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:35 am to Volvagia
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BTW...the A&M rivalry is fairly one sided.
They hate our guts.
We don't care.
Its rather interesting how they still go on about shite from over a decade ago.
What are you, a toddler?
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:58 am to tigerfoot
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It really only leaves Ole Miss and Arkansas.
Which is a shame. I'd prefer to have a top flight program want to be our rivals. But the big boys already have their Iron Bowls and Cocktail Parties...leaves us with second string picks
I just don't see Ole Miss or Arkansas ever achieving the prestige of a Florida, Alabama, LSU, Georgia, or Auburn.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:03 am to Doc Fenton
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This is a very divisive issue.
The Duck is trying to destroy us by pitting us against each other!
Doc Fenton, I do not know if you are accusing me directly or just joking. I will let you know however that I was going to thank you for your long history lesson posts. I could not get enough of them. And also to GoldRing who posted those long Rival posts. That informed me much in understanding LSU. And I just now re-read all the comments everybody made and thanks guys! There was so much good information in there from all!
The only reason I asked this question is because I have been spending much time on here for several months now and from my whole last year spending all my time with Ole Miss people and getting to know them very well, I know how much they detest LSU(team, fans, state, everything). But in my time on here, I had not ever seen really any hate felt back towards them. And I had just assumed they were also YOUR biggest rival. And then me reading of Arky, Bama, even T.A&M, it all confused me of exactly who your main rival was.
And well, I just wanted to understand LSU. I did not in any way try to get you fighting internally or pitting any of you against each other. I just was confused and did not know all this. And now I know from your answers. It seems, each one has his own view. And overall, you do not have just that "one" main rival like some other schools. And well, there is no rule in CF that says a school has to have one. And there is nothing wrong with it. As has been stated, when schools move to diff conferences and or other schools drop out or off, its hard. Makes sense to me.
And well, all this may be just the reason why of all the teams in the SEC, LSU is the closest thing to the rouge one, the independent one. The other SEC teams get their identity more on the unti(THE SEC) and if their team is down, they just switch loyalties and are "TEAM SEC FAN", which frustrates us West Coast people seeing such(not to mention the rest of the country like the Big Ten people too and all the rest). But not so much LSU. LSU seems to see themselves as LSU and almost to hell with the rest. Or, they might pull for the others, but they are not fans of the others, as we also think in the PAC. Anyways, that is a good thing in my book. And you probably developed this attitude from being a independent for a while and then also because you are so far out West of the Conference hub and also because you do not have that one historic main rival like the others.
Think of it this way. You are probably the only team in the SEC who could brake away from the SEC and go independent and do your own TV deals(ala ND, BYU ect.) and have any success. And maybe it is this more independent spirit with LSU that causes LSU to be respected TONS more then any other SEC for us PAC fans.
I was mainly confused on the OleMiss stuff, because I know how they see you. But you all cleared it up for me. Thanks.
One point has been brought out though that I do not get. A few have said your biggest rival is yourself. Can any explain to me how that is or why, or what in the world you mean by that?
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:09 am to DucksflyinPAC
It will always be O'l Miss no matter how much Bama trys to make that a big rival because Little Nicky once coached at LSU. The big rival with the Rebels started in the mid 50"s, when there was so many fights in the stands at times they would stop play for a short time. The Rebels are a joke now in the sec in any sport but in football they will always be our most hated team!!!!! 
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:11 am to DucksflyinPAC
It's offsason so we get along for the most part. Once the season starts, win , lose, or draw, this board, and our community will ignite in hatred for each other. Currently it is JJ. Once he graduates, there will be another. Miles is another target. We will start eating our own once the season starts, even if we are winning. Stick around, you'll see.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:13 am to DucksflyinPAC
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e. The other SEC teams get their identity more on the unti(THE SEC) and if their team is down, they just switch loyalties and are "TEAM SEC FAN", which frustrates us West Coast people seeing such
LSU fans largely fall into the "Team SEC" category during bowl games, like most SEC fans. We hate each other more than anyone from the North could possibly understand, but when it comes to conference respect, we know its better for Alabama to wipe the floor with some douchey West Coast team than to embarrass the SEC. There is, of course, a minority who hates the whole "Team SEC" attitude...but they are definitely a minority.
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you are so far out West of the Conference hub and also because you do not have that one historic main rival like the others.
I think you should see our "rivalry" as more of a "we actually hate everyone, and everyone hates us" instead of no rivalry at all. We've been hating for over a century. Plenty of historical tension
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You are probably the only team in the SEC who could brake away from the SEC and go independent and do your own TV deals(ala ND, BYU ect.) and have any success. And maybe it is this more independent spirit with LSU that causes LSU to be respected TONS more then any other SEC for us PAC fans.
The only team in the SEC that could DREAM of doing this would be Alabama. And they wouldn't. LSU wouldn't be capable of maintaining a network, Louisiana just isn't a big enough market. And LSU doesn't have a large national fanbase...just a rabid local one. The SEC is too lucrative for everyone involved. Believe me, LSU fans absolutely LOVE being in the SEC...don't think anything different. We would never leave.
And I really doubt fans from outside the South like LSU...we have a Cold War rivalry with USC because of 2003, we killed Ohio State and Oklahoma in BCSNCGs, we destroyed ND in the Sugar Bowl...the Northwest might have some good impressions of our fans because of the Washington game, but that's it
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BigEdLSU
Agreed. LSU is the most self-loathing fanbase in college football. I think its because we love the Tigers so much, we can't stand to see anything other than perfection...and our passionate disappointment at failure often ends up directed at our own players/coaches. And also ESPN, who you may have found out hates us
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 9:15 am
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:31 am to DucksflyinPAC
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LSU seems to see themselves as LSU and almost to hell with the rest.
That about sums it up.
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A few have said your biggest rival is yourself. Can any explain to me how that is or why, or what in the world you mean by that?
We love a good fight. If there's no one else around, we'll fight amongst ourselves.
At the same time, we love a good party.
A fight at a party? NOW we're talking!
Probably the best way for you to understand the Tiger fan is to come down for a night game at Tiger Stadium. The fans pack the campus (sometimes upwards of 100,000-120,000 while the stadium only holds 93,000) drinking and eating ALL day in preparation for the game.
Here's the rub, as a visiting fan you will be heckled, nearly accosted. If you respond poorly, may God have mercy on your soul. But if you give your school cheer back, or smile and ask, "What's cooking?", you will be welcomed with open arms and fed food that you've never tasted before and filled with drink until you're as drunk as the rest of us.
So there's always a sort of contradiction of fight and party on game day that I think makes it a unique experience.
I don't know why it is, but Louisianians in general have always been known as a rowdy bunch.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:33 am to PRK
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we have a Cold War rivalry with USC because of 1979
FIFY
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:37 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Alabama not even close. Ole piss is not a rival more of an afterthought. However if we ever get a shot at USC things might change. We have a deep seeded hatred of USC going back to the 70s and renewed with the split nc of 2003. The medisa love affair with USC has many here looking for revenge. If I had to pick 1 team to play and beat the. Meet In the tunnel for a fight it would be USC, followed closely by bama won't you bite my arse
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:38 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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WildTchoupitoulas
True. If there was one game in LSU's history that I wish I had been alive for...its USC 79'.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:45 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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We love a good fight. If there's no one else around, we'll fight amongst ourselves. At the same time, we love a good party. A fight at a party? NOW we're talking! Probably the best way for you to understand the Tiger fan is to come down for a night game at Tiger Stadium. The fans pack the campus (sometimes upwards of 100,000-120,000 while the stadium only holds 93,000) drinking and eating ALL day in preparation for the game. Here's the rub, as a visiting fan you will be heckled, nearly accosted. If you respond poorly, may God have mercy on your soul. But if you give your school cheer back, or smile and ask, "What's cooking?", you will be welcomed with open arms and fed food that you've never tasted before and filled with drink until you're as drunk as the rest of us. So there's always a sort of contradiction of fight and party on game day that I think makes it a unique experience. I don't know why it is, but Louisianians in general have always been known as a rowdy bunch.
This brings up another issue that I was going to ask at a later time. You see not only did I spend a lot of time with Ole Miss fans(online, not in person) last year, but also with many other SEC fans. And they all bent over backwards to tell me the one stadium I do not want to go to is LSU's because their fans are so rowdy. I heard stories and stories about how LSU fans are the worst to others and will do things such as: Throw bottles at the other fans, pee in cups and throw that at other fans, spit at other fans, are very vulgar to other fans. And out of all the SEC fans I polled last year all said LSU fans were the worst. And they said a night game at LSU is even worse too. And well, from all my time spending with SEC fans I was actually planning a trip down there and wanted to catch a few games. But in my mind, I easily wrote off any future LSU visits only because of hearing all this from the other SEC fans about you.
However, with my time on here though in the last few months, though I have seen some level of great oddness; In general I would not be worried if I went to a LSU game. One poster posted several days ago about a W.Vir fans prospective with being at LSU. It blew me away with the hospitality of LSU fans. And in time I quickly determined much of what was told me were exaggerated myths. However, many LSU fans have said, they may show up a little rowdy to some internal SEC teams like Ole Miss, AU ect, but to OOC teams, they are very inviting. And well, I have never been to a LSU game yet, but from all my reading, I bet this is the case: Internally hostil, outsiders welcoming.
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 9:55 am
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:49 am to PRK
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The only team in the SEC that could DREAM of doing this would be Alabama.
Also Florida. Florida has a bigger fanbase than Bama, I think.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:52 am to DucksflyinPAC
historically Ole Miss
there is no official rivalry game really (thats recognized), but for me its Auburn.
The game virtually decided the West a handful of times over the last 7-8 years
there is no official rivalry game really (thats recognized), but for me its Auburn.
The game virtually decided the West a handful of times over the last 7-8 years
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 9:54 am
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:53 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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We love a good fight. If there's no one else around, we'll fight amongst ourselves.
Started with Charlie Mac's dismissal. Latest victim = Crowton (he deserved it).
I felt really bad for our QBs the last few years. They were put in tough positions and had some difficulties. But I don't think they deserved what we gave them.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:55 am to DucksflyinPAC
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I heard stories and stories about how LSU fans are the worst to others and will do things such as: Throw bottles at the other fans, pee in cups and throw that at other fans, spit at other fans, are very vulgar to other fans.
That kind of stuff has been known to happen. The vast majority of visitors have a great time and a unique experience. So come on down!
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