re: Understand the Committee's Job

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So you say LSU would never get a mulligan, and then instantly point out the time they DID get a mulligan. Which is the only time we were in a situation to get one.

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LSU won the conference

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janitorial engineer at SONIC

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We prefer to be called custodial engineer. I got the cleanest sonic bathrooms in the nation. Cleaned plenty of blood off those walls after some TD scuffels. Its true, you should always check the knuckles.

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So in that same line of thinking, who wouldn't want to see a team having a great year (UCF, etc) play one of the big dogs? Who knows what would happen? shite, look at Coastal Carolina in baseball and Villanova in basketball, for example. Fresno State in baseball a little while back. Those were teams that won against all odds. Again, who wouldn't want to see that?

Is that not one of the things that the playoffs should ultimately create?

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yes. agreed 100%. then the boise states, and UCF's have something to play for also. They cannot feel left out anymore. wild cards are there for the taking.

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The current system is nothing more than the AP/UPI model of the 70's and 80's, in full disguise.

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This is EXACTLY what I stated yesterday. BINGO.

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Oh, throw in some objective criteria - but in the end it's all subjective. I preferred the BCS over this bullshite.

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agreed again. Give me back the 2 team BCS system over this shite sammich we are forced to eat now.

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Good thing Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, FSU, and Notre Dame aren't that good. We might see SEC Champion Georgia squeezed out of the picture. That's about how it was with the AP/UPI method. And that's about how it is now too.

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but it isn’t flawed at all. They chose the four best team

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All things are not equal when three got in because they won their championship game, an extra game Alabama did not have to play and risk a loss to get in, and Bama got in based upon a perception of a brand without having to put up any risk in doing so. I’m certainly not saying that Bama isn’t one of the top 4 teams or the perception is necessarily off base even, but that they didn’t risk a loss as the others did. THAT is what makes the system flawed, and an 8 team playoff would satisfy that in having your top 5 conference champions and 3 at large, or wild card teams if you would. It’s a ton better than what we have at present.

OR, do away with the conference championship games entirely, and Bama would have been on the outside looking in this year.

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Which is to put the BEST 4 teams in the playoff.

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Is it though? What if a team has their starting QB out the first half of the season, loses two non-conference games, 1 conference game, then wins their conference after their starting QB is back? They may actually be one of the 4 best teams at the end of the season, but there is no way the committee would select them over a somebody in Bama's situation. The selection process is fatally flawed when you limit it to 4 teams. And I get the arguments against expanding the playoffs. In an ideal world, you'd have conference champs from the power 5 conferences in, and a few others that are highly ranked in as well. But I don't see that hapening.

As much as I hate Alabama, the committee got it right. Also Nick Saban complimented LSU several times while being interviewed after he learned of the invite. All class. If we could just keep him out of our back yard recruiting.

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I don't even think their resume is that good. LSU is the best team they beat. The best team they played they got beat by two TD's. They are getting in on name recognition alone.

I have several issues with this statement.

Auburn is a better team than Bama. Why wasn't AU #4? The answer is that they lost 3 games. So this isn't a "the best 4 teams" argument.

Your next argument will be "Bama has only 1 loss"....so does Wisconsin and they actually have one more win and their loss to OSU in the B1G Championship is a better loss than to a 3-loss AU team.

Well, Bama has better wins than Wisconsin. They don't have better wins than USC or Ohio St.

The reality is that this committee pulled the same BS that everyone was trying to avoid when we went to the BCS. The perception that Bama is "clearly one of the best 4 teams" is always going to give them an advantage when there shouldn't be one.

In Bama's last 3 SEC games, which were arguably the meat of their schedule, they averaged 23 points per game and 352 total yds. Their opponents averaged 20 points and 348 yds. That's hardly evidence that they are "clearly" better.

What we saw this year was the self-fulfilling prophecy of the media's love for Bama.....they deserve to be in the playoffs because they have historically been good and made playoffs.

TL:DR -

Best Team argument: Auburn should've been #4
Best Loss argument: Wisconsin should've been #4
Best Wins argument: tOSU or USC should've been #4
Subjective, no evidence argument: Bama got #4