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re: Understand the Committee's Job
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:21 am to BeaumontBengal
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:21 am to BeaumontBengal
You gave an argument for Bama not being in, now heres the argument why they should. Again, I hate that they are in...but to say its not even debateable is false. Plus, I enjoy a good debate, and have nothing better to do at work right now.
Auburn has 3 Ls, Bama has 1. Auburn lost to LSU, who Bama beat.
Ohio State has 2 Ls, Bama has 1. Ohio States loss is way worse than Bamas 1.
I don't know how Wisconsin's numbers stack up to Bama, but its not one of the heated debates, so I'm assuming Bamas numbers look better. If they don't, then Wisconsin certainly has a solid argument.
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Auburn beat them head to head and has a separate win against Georgia that’s better than any Alabama has
Auburn has 3 Ls, Bama has 1. Auburn lost to LSU, who Bama beat.
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Ohio State has a better win and a conference championship
Ohio State has 2 Ls, Bama has 1. Ohio States loss is way worse than Bamas 1.
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Wisconsin has more wins and the same number of losses.
I don't know how Wisconsin's numbers stack up to Bama, but its not one of the heated debates, so I'm assuming Bamas numbers look better. If they don't, then Wisconsin certainly has a solid argument.
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:24 am to Hold That Tiger 10
What about the USC Debate? Im gonna guess your going to say that USC also has two losses. The issue is that all of those teams played for a chance to have a 3rd loss. Bama didnt play the extra game. Bama could of easily had to play Saturday and lost against Georgia
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:25 am to bigosports
You're right, but all the "whining" may have the effect of expanding to an 8 team playoff with the 5 conference champs and 3 at large.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:27 am to Greace
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What about the USC Debate? Im gonna guess your going to say that USC also has two losses
You can easily throw USC into the debate as well. Like Wisconsin, I don't know their numbers compared to Bama. And yes, they do have two loses.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:29 am to Greace
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The issue is that all of those teams played for a chance to have a 3rd loss. Bama didnt play the extra game. Bama could of easily had to play Saturday and lost against Georgia
I get that man, but my point is that because Bama didn't play they lost the ability to control their own destiny. Do you really think Bama would rather have been sitting at home, and not playing, while pulling for others to lose just so they could even get back into the discussion?
Its starting to make me sick that I'm sitting here arguing for Bama.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:30 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Thats the problem though. Bama didnt even have the chance to knock themselves out because they didnt earn the right to play in the game that all of the other teams did. Wisconsin without that Championship game is in
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:31 am to Greace
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Okay please list Alabamas numerous wins this year that got them into the Top 4 this year
You keep bringing up irrelevant issues! I'm not arguing whether or not Bama should've gotten in this year.
I'm merely saying that winning your division or conference isn't absolutely necessary to get into the playoff. And my example was a hypothetical - if 2011 LSU loses to Bama 9-6 in OT, instead of winning, do we deserve a do-ever in the BCSCG, like Bama got with us. I'd answer absolutely yes, given the massive success of our 2011 regular season with big wins over many very, very good teams and our only loss (hypothetically) being in OT to the no. 1 team, on the road.
It's really a very simple question - stop deflecting.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 9:32 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:31 am to Greace
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Bama didnt even have the chance to knock themselves out
They also didnt have the opportunity to play themselves in. Wisconsin was in a much better spot going into Saturday. Are you going to deny that?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:34 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Bama is a bigger brand when you consider that Bama is a SEC / ESPN team. The committee is controlled by ESPN. Alabama is there number 1 brand. They will get every break, advantage and consideration. OSU is a Big 10 / Fox team. They have a smaller part of the pie and has less stroke. You want to fix this bias, bring back the BCS, otherwise just accept that system is rigged and was designed that way.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:36 am to Chimlim
We don’t need an 8 team playoff. There are three legit contenders all with a shot. The Committee added a fourth because they had to and they picked the one most likely to compete with the other three.
Whether it was Ohio State or Bama that go left out, neither could complain. And the next three - Auburn, Wisconsin and USC - don’t belong.
The system worked perfectly and the only controversy was at #4.
Whether it was Ohio State or Bama that go left out, neither could complain. And the next three - Auburn, Wisconsin and USC - don’t belong.
The system worked perfectly and the only controversy was at #4.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:37 am to Ponchy Tiger
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You want to fix this bias, bring back the BCS, otherwise just accept that system is rigged and was designed that way.
The BCS would have had Bama in and OSU out as well.
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Bama is a bigger brand when you consider that Bama is a SEC / ESPN team. The committee is controlled by ESPN. Alabama is there number 1 brand. They will get every break, advantage and consideration. OSU is a Big 10 / Fox team. They have a smaller part of the pie and has less stroke
Thats such BS. You have nothing at all to support this.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:39 am to Ace Midnight
The job of the committee was to put the 4 best teams in. They said the difference between teams 5 -8 in the standings last week was minimal. If so one team wins their conference and the other doesnt play a game. Just saying!
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:39 am to atltiger6487
Sure Yes. CONSIDERING we beat numerous ranked teams who went on to win their Conference. Thats not what happened this year. Bama didnt go get numerous big victorys. They played in a very down SEC. And beat a 6 win Florida state Fresno, Co state and Mercer. Real powerhouse schedule. If you have the resume to overcome not winning your division(IE OSU last year) you should be in. Bama does not have the resume of a team who should jump in over conference champions
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:41 am to Greace
The biggest fear by many when the playoffs started that the regular season would become irrelevant. Congratulations we have now reached that point. We need at least an 8 team playoff and then just treat the regular season as a tuneup.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:42 am to Ace Midnight
Say it slowly. The best teams. In 2011 Bama and us were the two best teams. In 2007 that was magic the way everyone who needed to lose actually loss.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:43 am to Greace
UCF- undefeated. Would they have a chance to beat Clemson? No way in hell.
Wisconsin- 1 loss. Would they have a chance to heat Clemson? Most likely get blown out.
Bama- 1 loss. Favored to beat Clemson.
Ohio State- 2 Ls. Maybe beat Clemson, but doubtful.
USC- 2 Ls. Maybe beat Clemson, but doubtful.
Committee put the team in that had the best chance of winning.
Wisconsin- 1 loss. Would they have a chance to heat Clemson? Most likely get blown out.
Bama- 1 loss. Favored to beat Clemson.
Ohio State- 2 Ls. Maybe beat Clemson, but doubtful.
USC- 2 Ls. Maybe beat Clemson, but doubtful.
Committee put the team in that had the best chance of winning.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:45 am to Darius David
How do you determine the "best" teams?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:45 am to Hold That Tiger 10
All of that is based on the Eyeball test. Which is what im against.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:46 am to bigosports
Alabama is a bigger brand than Ohio state. Funny how Saban said last year that You should win your conference if you want to be in the playoff. Then he had a different view this year. Not to mention it had already changed from 2011.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 9:53 am
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