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re: Tyrann Mathieu better cornerback than Patrick Peterson?

Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:51 pm to
He was on the Jets for years and killed us every year. I hated him but i saw how good he was. Just glad hes on our side
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:52 pm to
How convenient
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:54 pm to
Its True dough
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:55 pm to
I aint hatin, brah
Posted by RBWilliams8
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:56 pm to
There's really only a couple of living men in which a claim like that can be made. Matthieu is not one of them.
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:59 pm to
Mathieu is a great football player. The funniest part of this is hes not a CB.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:08 pm to
Im surprised you didnt get a couple people agreeing on here because some posters on here worship the ground that Mathieu walks on
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:37 pm to
Corey white ahead of talib and bailey .....

and janoris Jenkins not even on the list ...Jenkins is a top 10 cb imo....

list is complete garbage.....
Posted by iliveinabox
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:44 pm to
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by jfran23
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:20 pm to
Mathieu better all rounder, Patrick Peterson is better cb
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:00 am to
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It's close but have tp geaux with Honey Badger


What in tha frick
Posted by Dick Macho
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:45 am to

DUH
Posted by Cracking
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 10:46 am to
It's not close, and if I had to pick one non-QB player to start a team with, it would be hard not to choose Peterson who I consider the best overall athlete in the league along with megatron. Peterson can effect the game at all three phases O, D and ST.

Only argument against him would be Megatron, a dominant DE or a dominant blind side OT.

Mathieu is playing better than I though though. Hope he fully recovers from the injury... I haven't kept up since he is in AZ.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Tyrann Mathieu better cornerback than Patrick Peterson?
Well according to the BR Peterson is only a "man to man coverage specialist" so I guess he is only good at covering people as a CB. I'm sorry, I don't even know where to begin with this one.
Posted by whodatigahbait
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 1:56 pm to
go look at the writer's profile:

Favorite Coaches

Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick, Nick Saban

SMH
Posted by boxcar willie
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Mathieu is a great football player. The funniest part of this is hes not a CB.


Peterson playing out of position also at CB. Would be a much better safety with his combination of size and speed. He would be the most dominate player on the field and affect every play the offense would run from the safety position. AT CB he can be taken out of the game by just not throwing to the receiver he is covering. Plus he wasting his size and hitting ability at the CB position.
Posted by Dick Macho
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:30 pm to
I fully appreciate your point of view on PP's "True Position" but I propose that as long as he is not in a weak secondary to begin with then all that we should have to do is look at what he allowed Chevis to do when he totally locked down the opponent's best receiver at the cb position.

His presence was felt big time on many levels. IMO, the biggest advantage to having him at cb i college was that Chavis could be muh more aggressive in his play calling... and Chavis did a great job of using PP and the other good DBs.

Now in Arizona he might be better in the safety spot but I still don't think so. The advantage of having a dominant secondary like LSU enjoyed isn't quite there but the advantages that PP brings to the table by wrapping up the opponent's best receiving threat is still huge.

When you have a guy that can lock down any receiver in the nation when he is on his game is huge at any level.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:17 pm to
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advantages that PP brings to the table by wrapping up the opponent's best receiving threat is still huge


He still doesn't change directions as well as the smaller CB's. It's not like he completely blankets the receiver (like stink on shite as my high school BB coach use to say). It's just hard to really stick to a receiver when you have that kind of size. Just physics, momentum and mass moving in one direction is harder to move in another direction. I just think at safety he would be maybe the greatest ever to play the position, although CB is a more coveted position. I just think great safetys are under rated. When you would have someone like Peterson anchoring your defense playing sideline to sideline in coverage, covering over the top on deep balls, and coming up and hitting RB's like a ton of bricks, it can't be under estimated what that does in making a defense. At LSU we were stacked at safety already with Brandon Taylor and Reid, but a little thin at CB, just thought when he got to the pros they would have tried him at safety. I think he must prefer play CB though
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Dick Macho
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:03 pm to
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He still doesn't change directions as well as the smaller CB's.


But that's just it my good man!!! He does have great NFL quality change of direction! He is that kind of freak player.

Before I go any further, allow me to mention a certain Seahawk CB that loves the sound of his own voice and happens to be an inch taller than PP7. We both know that he is said to have good cover skills.

Still though, I don't think that we are disagreeing here. They are both capable of playing multiple positions in the back seven but this is a CB issue alone. I guess that the only way to really answer this is to ask ourselves who would we want to cover the best WRs in the NFL? Julio and the gang would get the best of the HB mainly because of their size and PP7 coud bump them effectively while TM wouldn't be able to nearly as well or as often. Tyrann would still make some plays but Patrick would shut down those top receivers when he is having his good days barring awesome passing from their QBs. Since the Cards won't be rotating PP and TM on the island anytime soon, I am going to have to give the nod to the guy that makes his pro bowl living on that island.


PP7 wins without a doubt even though the HB will have an awesome career and could end up right next to him in the hall of fame since the two are brothers from other mothers.
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