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re: Transparency from these medical committees advising?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:08 pm to engl6914
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:08 pm to engl6914
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The whole idea in fighting this epidemic is disperse and avoid crowds. The slower the epidemic’s progress the more time is allowed to develop a drug treatment or vaccine.
Of course. This is what keeps any disease or virus from spreading. That’s why during flu season, some
Schools shut down when there is a high spread rate. No one is denying that. We’re talking about the athletes, the 18-24 year old who play and their health. Conceivably, they could play without a crowd, or a crowd of fewer spectators without higher risk. My point was addressing long term health risks and the hypocrisy of using that as a reason because these athletes are more at risk to break a leg, get a concussion (which has long term effects) and/or die from the flu than they would Covid (as far as we know with five months’ data). We know how it spreads, but the argument is over if it’s too dangerous for these athletes to play.
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:08 pm to sanantoniosleauxgeaux
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Why not a preventive dosage of hydrochloroquil, z-pac and zinc and play ball! Oh forgot. That’s outlawed even though it has worked for 60 years harmlessly and has proven effective in country after country, including the USA, in the early treatment of COVID!
100% false. It is absolutely not being used in other countries to any real extent.
There is zero credible evidence to support that it’s effective.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:12 pm to John cocktoasten
I don’t get it. Why does everyone talk about death rate or age or transparency? There’s minimal danger of those things. The entire issue is TRANSMISSION. Not necessarily among the players but outside the team. New cases are falling slightly but out number by almost double new cases during the lockdown. Everything isn’t “OK”.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:16 pm to tigahlovah
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The survival rate is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than that. It is widely acknowledged that there are a significant number of undocumented cases that have obviously all recovered. If those could be factored in, the already skyscraper high survival rate would skyrocket further. For the sheeple, yes this virus kills people, but it ain't freaking ebola, and we shouldn't be shutting bullspit down the way we have. Wake up!!!!!
Not about the death rate. It’s about the infection rate and overloading an already piss poor healthcare system (and yes, compared to most modern countries, America’s healthcare system is piss poor).
Overloading the healthcare system would lead to more non Covid related deaths as well as Covid related deaths.
It’s also easy as frick for you to sit up on your high horse about this when you don’t know anyone who was hospitalized and died from it. It’s not a pleasant death. It’s not quick and it DAMN SURE is not painless for most of them. The ones on ventilators are the lucky ones. They are at least in a drug induced coma.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:40 pm to J2thaROC
I thought the point was about the athletes and the advisory committee weighing in on their health. Not the community spread possible because of fans in stadium. If “they” are truly concerned about the health of the student athlete, Covid wouldn’t be a concern over, say, concussions? Or spinal injuries? These student athletes are much more likely to die/be injured from something other than Covid. They never let those studies about concussions stop them. And those are pretty significantly debilitating for a lot of former athletes.
I agree with Saban. Either it’s too dangerous or it’s not. If it is, they should have no campuses open and freshman shoved in the dorms. If it isn’t, then one group is not more valuable than the other.
I agree with Saban. Either it’s too dangerous or it’s not. If it is, they should have no campuses open and freshman shoved in the dorms. If it isn’t, then one group is not more valuable than the other.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:53 pm to augustbengal
If you can’t attack the presidential leadership during this crisis then go after the medical experts he appoints instead
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:21 pm to augustbengal
It has ZERO to do with spreading among fans. It’s about spreading, period. The players are unlikely to get very sick if they contract COVId. That’s a given. It’s the transmission to others, family..friends...etc. the only way to control a virus like this is to stop the spread. You can’t do that with college football players unless they are in a bubble, which I’m all for. The NBA has been very successful outside of an incident, the NHL has the strictest bubble with zero cases. That’s what football needs to do if it can go forth.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:04 pm to Syntax
I would agree with that. If they want to play, they stay in that bubble.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:02 pm to John cocktoasten
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Are we trying to avoid, dare I say eliminate, positive tests? Impossible.
The idea is to limit the spread until there is a viable vaccine
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:02 pm to jeff5891
Now it’s find a vaccine. Great. Check out the percentage of Louisianians who actually get the well-established and proven effective flu vaccine. Go ahead and guess what it is.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:43 pm to J2thaROC
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There is zero credible evidence to support that it’s effective.
Says...?????????
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:49 pm to Syntax
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Everything isn’t “OK”.
Yes it is. You mean Transmission is the political excuse. FIFY (((Sorry, Chicken))).
But reality is this is a long incubated virus, but targets only few. Don't destroy more lives than the virus will take regardless of what we do to defend against it. We are destroying all lives....ALL Lives by not getting our schit back to normal.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:22 am to John cocktoasten
This a fake political pandemic. Manipulation of a situation to attempt to damage the economy in order to blame
President Trump. That is all this is about.
The Democrats have no desire to help anyone nor do they care. A shut down economy is exactly what they want and they do not care how many people lose jobs, homes, cars, or businesses. They want power at any expense.
Democrats have to go.
President Trump. That is all this is about.
The Democrats have no desire to help anyone nor do they care. A shut down economy is exactly what they want and they do not care how many people lose jobs, homes, cars, or businesses. They want power at any expense.
Democrats have to go.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 6:02 am to jeff5891
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The idea is to limit the spread until there is a viable vaccine
No that was never the idea. The idea was we take 2 to 3 weeks to "flatten the curve" and allow the Hospitals a chance to catch up. Somehow this has turned into an indefinite shutdown of the entire society because do-gooders know more than everybody else and care more than everybody else and society is held hostage by this stupidity. This has become a political virus moreso than a true threat to society at large.
It is intentional and the Democrats are attempting to use Covid-19 as a tool. They have proven that Cities don't matter and jobs don't matter. Screw em.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 6:18 am to Syntax
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It’s about spreading, period
These kids will be tested repeatedly in protocol and those with Covid identified immediately. As we've come to know the majority of these athletes testing positive have been asymptomatic, and if they weren't within these team guidelines together, there's nothing to say they would not be at as much risk or more of getting it IMHO.
So if not in the protocol, say at home left to their own devices, and they get it, are asymptomatic and are not being tested regularly (which they would not be outside the team structure) they are spreading it more cause they have no idea they have it.
Within the team structure, they would be notified if their positive test and be able to quarantine and protect at risk folks in their lives and others.
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It’s the transmission to others, family..friends...etc. the only way to control a virus like this is to stop the spread.
Per my statements above, I'm not so sure sending these kids home Vs. 24/7 medical supervision, protocols and testing is better for stopping the spread. Knowing vs. not knowing is better for preventing the spread IMHO.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:42 pm to J2thaROC
You are right, I along with the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of people on this planet don't know anyone affected by this virus with a MICROSCOPIC death rate.
But I have a grandfather who died in a car wreck. So I DEMAND!!!!!!!!!! that we have a ZERO TOLERANCE 5 mph speed limit enforced nationwide. That would eliminate 99.9999999999999999% of all traffic fatalities. See how this works, dipshit??
But I have a grandfather who died in a car wreck. So I DEMAND!!!!!!!!!! that we have a ZERO TOLERANCE 5 mph speed limit enforced nationwide. That would eliminate 99.9999999999999999% of all traffic fatalities. See how this works, dipshit??
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