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Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:17 pm to chilge1
Probably not... Although I still believe they would have been 11-2... maybe beating Auburn and losing to Ole Miss/Arkansas
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:18 pm to Holla4aDolla
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A friend of mine
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told me
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Dolla
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:19 pm to Holla4aDolla
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Also said that he told Miles 14 times last season that he was just "giving" JJ the ball and that he hadn't earned it.
not surprising at all
the players arent stupid, they see the exact same thing we see on the field, and obviously a lot more and practice and whatnot. they know damn well jefferson did nothing to earn playing time and i said all season long that players were going to lose faith in les if he stuck with jefferson. luckily it didnt implode the team, but i definitely think it caused a lot of internal tension.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:25 pm to GFunk
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It's why #53 played last year. It's why #70 & #65 played in 2009. It's why #9 could claim responsibility for the Recession, and Miles is going to keep chucking him out there.
Miles isn't going to sit a senior two year-starter at QB for 1st year Soph in the program.
Just like Les doesn't play Freshmen.
Signed,
The 23 True or Redshirt Freshmen that played this past year.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:25 pm to Gray Tiger
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Unnamed
With good reason
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Deals? With both teams? How
Autograph signings and appearances
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Date of recruiting bash. Date of your report? Why the lag time? Anyone else hear this?
Spoke with him today, for the first time since the bash.
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TT is working with Mett in prep for combine? Confirmation of this please.
Mett has been on campus for a little while now. How hard is it to believe that TT is catching passes from him?
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Confirmation of a player criticizing another player to the head coach multiple times?
Cannot confirm this, nor can anyone else. I'm just passing on info I was told. My guy has no reason to make shite up.
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May I be skeptical?
Sure...most douche bags usually are
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:39 pm to GFunk
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It's why #9 could claim responsibility for the Recession, and Miles is going to keep chucking him out there
There wasn't much of an alternative.
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It's why #53 played last year
He didn't play poorly IMO. 2009 would have been a better example.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:47 pm to Holla4aDolla
All I know is that no one on this board and very few people in the country can do the job Coach Miles has done. If you don't think so, look back at LSU's own history. Look past Saban.
I mean, it always looks so clear to me what the coach should do, but if I or any other Yahooo took on the job, it would be an epic fail.
That's why I love LSU and love this board. Ain't nothing like it in the United States.
Go Tigers!!
I mean, it always looks so clear to me what the coach should do, but if I or any other Yahooo took on the job, it would be an epic fail.
That's why I love LSU and love this board. Ain't nothing like it in the United States.
Go Tigers!!
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't think Lee would have been a worse passing option than JJ last year. When Lee didn't start after the UF game, I knew there was nothing he could do to unseat JJ.
Lee really didn't play that well after the FL game.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:57 pm to tduecen
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tduecen
Probably not... Although I still believe they would have been 11-2... maybe beating Auburn and losing to Ole Miss/Arkansas
LSU would have beaten Auburn had Lee started? Lee played poorly in that game.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:58 pm to DBG
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they see the exact same thing we see on the field,
And that was? And you saw this "thing" from a players' perspective how?
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obviously a lot more and practice and whatnot.
You attended practices as well?
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i said all season long that players were going to lose faith in les if he stuck with jefferson
You have independent confirmation of this? Where is this massive loss of faith in Miles you speak of? How was it demonstrated during the season?
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but i definitely think it caused a lot of internal tension.
You have evidence to back this up? You do have independently verified evidence don't you? How was this tension revealed?
Thank you.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 6:59 pm to Holla4aDolla
Wouldn't shock me. TT's stats were insanely better with JL in the game, minus the Cotton Bowl.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 7:02 pm to Holla4aDolla
He was "giving" JJ the ball because his alternatives were inferior. Until someone can make a case based on facts, not bias, as to why JL should have been starting instead, this is a conversation about nothing.
This post was edited on 2/23/11 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 2/23/11 at 7:06 pm to nycajun
I'm just passing on what I thought was a very telling comment. Like I said in the original post. Take it fwiw
Posted on 2/23/11 at 7:08 pm to Holla4aDolla
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Unnamed
With good reason
And that might be? Because? Let me guess: an international spy?
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Deals? With both teams? How
Autograph signings and appearances
Ok so this source collects autographs and that qualifies him as an expert?
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Date of recruiting bash. Date of your report? Why the lag time? Anyone else hear this?
Spoke with him today, for the first time since the bash.
So much for the good friend angle. You would think if this source had such hot information and you being a good friend that he would have contacted you immediately.
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Mett has been on campus for a little while now. How hard is it to believe that TT is catching passes from him?
How many days have they worked out? When? Where?
Just tell us. Prove it to us, that's all.
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Cannot confirm this, nor can anyone else. I'm just passing on info I was told. My guy has no reason to make shite up.
Oh come on man!! You can't possibly be this naive or expect us to be. Nobody ever invents stuff?
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May I be skeptical?
Sure...most douche bags usually are
Thank you for that. You have provodided no proof that: 1. This guy has any real information, or that 2. he actually exists. or 3. that any of this ever happened.
But you do expect us to just openly believe this?
Plase dont insult us. But I do thank you for insulting me personally. It reveals the weakness of your postition.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 7:08 pm to nycajun
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He was "giving" JJ the ball because his alternatives were inferior. Until someone can make a case based on facts, not bias, as to why JL should have been starting instead, this is a conversation about nothing.
Lee CLEARLY outplayed Jefferson in the Tennessee and Florida games, and that was after 4 other bad games from Jefferson
those are stone cold facts
This post was edited on 2/23/11 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 2/23/11 at 7:11 pm to Gray Tiger
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i said all season long that players were going to lose faith in les if he stuck with jefferson
You have independent confirmation of this? Where is this massive loss of faith in Miles you speak of? How was it demonstrated during the season?
What makes you think Miles stuck with JJ? Sure he remained the starter because Miles wasn't dumb enough to disrupt the flow of a winning season and switching starting qb's mid-season could have definately done that. I see JL's major playing time and significant series of running our offense a direct reflection of Miles not sticking with JJ. Miles definately lost faith in JJ this year and needed JL to carry our offense at times. 2009 JL didn't get anything but mop up duty and that is an example of Miles standing by JJ.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 7:12 pm to Holla4aDolla
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I'm just passing on what I thought was a very telling comment. Like I said in the original post. Take it fwiw
Fair enough. But there is a reason based on practical experience that, in a legal context, hearsay evidence (taking person #1's statement as to what person #2 said as evidence of the truth of what #2 said--as opposed to the fact that #2 said it) has been viewed for centuries as unreliable at best, and in most cases flatly not to be given credence at all. I understand that message boards are about as far as you can get from sworn testimony, except maybe for meetings of the Liars Club, but the rule has its roots in the reality that "A said that B said" tends to be worthless.
This post was edited on 2/23/11 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 2/23/11 at 7:21 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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What makes you think Miles stuck with JJ
I think that Miles stuck with JJ because he knows more about football and about these two young men and about his team than I do. Or that you do for that matter. So I trust his judgment.
Generally speaking the two of them have different but complimentary styles. The result show that Miles made a pretty darn good decision.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 7:30 pm to tduecen
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Probably not... Although I still believe they would have been 11-2... maybe beating Auburn and losing to Ole Miss/Arkansas
beating Auburn?...Lee had no chance vs Fairley.
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