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re: Today's Scrimmage stats and more
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:44 am to tigerskin
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:44 am to tigerskin
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You have a million previous posts about Lindsey Scott. No doubt you are a bitter family member. I don't expect you to admit it.
Neither a family member nor bitter. Ive been an advocate of ths spread offenses and its QBs since forever.
LINK /
But this comment concerns guys that are ON the roster. You cant develop without reps. If narcisse or McMillan are not developing, then they belong in a system that fits what they do. Isnt that just logical?
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 9:54 am
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:45 am to MOT
Narcisse received extra spring work. Brennan, who came later, needed the extra reps to learn the new offense.
Shouldn't read into it too much
Shouldn't read into it too much
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:45 am to BayouCowboy
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Are you implying that Orgeron has picked the starting QB? Canada who was brought in to re-vamp the offense let the "DL coach", the guy some say is nothing more than a cheerleader, make the call on who will lead Canada's offense?
Wow. Just wow.
Again. Yup.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:47 am to Capo
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Narcisse received extra spring work. Brennan, who came later, needed the extra reps to learn the new offense.
Shouldn't read into it too much
Narcisse did not take "extra" during spring work. The kid barely got reps in the spring.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:52 am to BayouCowboy
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Also, don't be surprised if the passing game or offense in general doesn't look smooth in the first few games. They aren't as in synch as the D and will take time to get there. There will also be more potential for negative plays.
Not disagreeing because nobody knows the future. But, I would like to point out that in his first year at Pitt last season Matt Canada beat Rose Bowl bound Penn State in the second game of the season.
Pitt outgained PSU in total yards and held a 35 to 25 minute time of possession advantage.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:13 am to prepsportsallday
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But this comment concerns guys that are ON the roster. You cant develop without reps
Have you never seen an LSU practice video. One where all the QB's are lined up across the field throwing different passes at the same time. Is that not reps??
If a team knows who their top 2 or 3 QB's are based on reps in practice, you think they should give the 5th and 6th string QB's more reps in the very few live-game-situation scrimmages so they won't transfer? Have the top 2 guys ride the pine in the live scrimmages?
https://youtu.be/MuwlK8YuE80?t=11
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:26 am to Tiger Ree
The best thing about this 2017 LSU football team is "the other team's football players really don't know what the next LSU play is going to be.
Imagine that, for the first time in 12 years the other team will not know where the ball is going - coming from the 2017 LSU football teams offense.
Imagine that, for the first time in 12 years the other team will not know where the ball is going - coming from the 2017 LSU football teams offense.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:27 am to Tiger Ree
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Have you never seen an LSU practice video. One where all the QB's are lined up across the field throwing different passes at the same time. Is that not reps??
No. In the football world,those are not reps. They are prepractice drills. Typically the media gets to see that. Thats why the program releases it. Reps happen during 7v7 and full team vs the offense or defense.
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If a team knows who their top 2 or 3 QB's are based on reps in practice, you think they should give the 5th and 6th string QB's more reps in the very few live-game-situation scrimmages so they won't transfer? Have the top 2 guys ride the pine in the live scrimmages?
You're right. This team knows who the one and two are no doubt. The 3 and 4 dont fit this scheme. 3 and 4 should find one that does.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:41 am to prepsportsallday
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Canada is not making the decision here. I know its tough to conceive. But hes not.
Why would he be here if he's not the one picking his QB? It would be different if our HC was an offensive guy like Urban or something...but i'm sure O would admit that Canada knows about lot more about offense and personnel than he does. This argument holds no merit.
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If you see more upside with one guy as oppose to the other, fine. Then just say, 1 guy got about 4 plays, the other 20 reps. Its not a tie. One guy fits what we want to do more.
Most coaches are not going to do that, because they a) dont want to demoralize the 3/4 guys and b) we dont want LN and Mcmillian to transfer.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:46 am to prepsportsallday
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The 3 and 4 dont fit this scheme.
Perhaps they are just not as good as the #2 guy. Is that possible?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:51 am to SportTiger1
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Perhaps they are just not as good as the #2 guy. Is that possible?
Possible? Sure.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:52 am to prepsportsallday
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You're right. This team knows who the one and two are no doubt. The 3 and 4 dont fit this scheme. 3 and 4 should find one that does.
There is a little more to being a starting QB than you seem to think. You can have the tallest, fastest, strongest arm SOB in the world and if he is too dumb to pick up the playbook, he will not play.
If a QB is used to being in a shotgun 100% of the time and now has to take snaps from under center and is having trouble with it, he will not play.
If a QB had two knee injuries his last two seasons of high school and the coaches want to bring him along slowly so he can completely heal, he will not play.
If a QB at this time in his life is just not performing as well as the other QB's, he will not play.
There are many things that you and I are not aware of that explain why certain QB's are getting less reps. I trust the coaches choices when they see them perform and interact with them in meetings everyday and whose livelihood depends on making the correct decisions over yours. Sorry
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:57 am to SportTiger1
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Why would he be here if he's not the one picking his QB?
Exactly.
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i'm sure O would admit that Canada knows about lot more about offense and personnel than he does. This argument holds no merit
Im sure he would too. I'm not arguing.
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dont want to demoralize the 3/4 guys and
Demoralized them any more than 4 reps a practice?
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we dont want LN and Mcmillian to transfer.
Of course we dont.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:59 am to prepsportsallday
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No. In the football world,those are not reps
Maybe in your "football world". In my "football world" when a QB gets reps in practice, it is reps.
Maybe this explains why you can't grasp how the hierarchy of a football team's depth chart works and who should play instead of the other guys.
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They are prepractice drills
Pre-practice drills are jumping over cones and doing jumping jacks. When the OC is yelling at you while you are throwing the ball to a WR it is practice.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:12 am to Tiger Ree
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Watch for the up coming McMillan transfer/position change announcement. (I correctly predicted the Harris and Scott transfer long ago)
Agreed. Add LN too the list. I just hope the young men leave early enough to salvage as much time that they can somewhere that they can get a fair shake. Clear those guys never stood a chance and have been overlooked for reps. Why give them reps in areas they already excel at, picking up yards with their feet. Complete waste of these guys time.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:14 am to Tiger Ree
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Maybe in your "football world". In my "football world" when a QB gets reps in practice, it is reps.
Maybe this explains why you can't grasp how the hierarchy of a football team's depth chart works and who should play instead of the other guys
Wow. I honestly didn't think that you would argue this point. I dont intend to. Im sure you know some one who is a former college player or high school coach. Give them a ring. Send them your youtube link. Since we dont agree on what "rep" is.
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Pre-practice drills are jumping over cones and doing jumping jacks. When the OC is yelling at you while you are throwing the ball to a WR it is practice.
I appreciate that thought. Thats not how it works. When CEO says taking "equal reps with the ones", this is not whhat he means. But I'm cool with agreeing to disagree.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 11:16 am
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:19 am to LuzianaFootball
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Agreed. Add LN too the list. I just hope the young men leave early enough to salvage as much time that they can somewhere that they can get a fair shake. Clear those guys never stood a chance and have been overlooked for reps. Why give them reps in areas they already excel at, picking up yards with their feet. Complete waste of these guys time.
I hope so too. I think coaching entails developing what requires development. It wasn't the best fit for this kid, even with the old staff.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:30 am to prepsportsallday
LN is a freaking true freshman. Etling will be gone next year. Canada has used both type of QB's.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:31 am to prepsportsallday
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Wow. I honestly didn't think that you would argue this point. I dont intend to. Im sure you know some one who is a former college player or high school coach. Give them a ring. Send them your youtube link. Since we dont agree on what "rep" is.
I can't believe anyone posting on this board would NOT know what a "rep" is.
High School:
Varsity Practice Organization: Reps! Reps! Reps! Kim Nelson, Head Football Coach, Edina High School, Edina, MN
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Our tempo was slow, with a lot of players standing around coaches standing around while the head coach or coordinator stopped the play to correct something, or walk through the play. We really didn’t get a lot of repetitions,
College:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1558722-how-to-run-the-most-effective-college-football-spring-practice
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Effectiveness, as far as practice methods goes, is largely based upon the desired goal to be achieved. For some coaches it is about speed and high reps.
Pro:
https://footballscoop.com/news/the-buffalo-bills-have-devised-a-unique-practice-plan-that-allows-them-to-work-smarter-and-more-efficiently/
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The Buffalo Bills have devised a unique practice plan that allows them to work smarter and more efficiently
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In it, two practices are run on separate parts of the field so that plays are constantly being run, and reps and constantly being taken by the starters and backups alike. Roman’s philosophy suggests that younger players need to be engaged at all times in order to maximize their development.
Really unbelievable !!!
If you know a former college football player or coach at any level that doesn't know what a "rep" is, you should try to find smarter people to know.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:34 am to prepsportsallday
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I appreciate that thought. Thats not how it works. When CEO says taking "equal reps with the ones", this is not whhat he means.
You don't even know what a practice rep is. How in the hell would you know what a college football coach means?
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