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re: To all of you freaking out about regional host for baseball...
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:02 pm to Terrific Tales
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:02 pm to Terrific Tales
Dude, we will be the last team selected to host a regional, and don't think that we are purely getting to host bc of our achievements on the field. If it were solely based on that, we wouldn't be hosting. We have serious clout and recognition nationally bc of our illustrious history as a premier baseball program over the last 30 years. Our history, our stadium holding 12,000+ fans, and our guaranteed sellouts for big games in the postseason are undoubtedly major contributing factors which sway the selection committee in our favor as a host site over some of the smaller programs and venues which, despite having a better claim to being a host if it were based solely on performance during the regular season, have to travel bc LSU is simply a revenue goldmine as far as the NCAA baseball tournament is concerned. LSU baseball receives the benefit of the doubt over a lot of schools based on this alone.
In regards to your post, LSU is not only underachieving according to the #1 ranking experts bestowed upon our team this season, we have been slowly declining all season long. It's to the point now where some of our fans are using LSU simply hosting a fricking regional as some sort of proper validation that our baseball team hasnt vastly underachieved, the program isnt on the decline under CPM, and that CPM as the head coach didn't fail to deliver the results that this 2019 LSU team had the potential to reach and at least should have been in a much better position than it is in at the moment. That's what myself, along with many other fans, are so upset about. It's bullshite.
In regards to your post, LSU is not only underachieving according to the #1 ranking experts bestowed upon our team this season, we have been slowly declining all season long. It's to the point now where some of our fans are using LSU simply hosting a fricking regional as some sort of proper validation that our baseball team hasnt vastly underachieved, the program isnt on the decline under CPM, and that CPM as the head coach didn't fail to deliver the results that this 2019 LSU team had the potential to reach and at least should have been in a much better position than it is in at the moment. That's what myself, along with many other fans, are so upset about. It's bullshite.
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:06 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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over some of the smaller programs and venues which, despite having a better claim to being a host if it were based solely on performance during the regular season,
Ok. So post all the teams with better resumes so that we can compare
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:12 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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We will be the last team selected to host a regional
Probably not
The rest of your first paragraph is just conspiracy BS. When the West is as tough as it was this year, 17-13 should get a host.
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we have been slowly declining all season long
We got swept by Texas, followed by taking 2 of 3 from Mississippi state. That sounds like up and down, not just decline. I’m no physicist but we are definitely not declining right now. We have won 4 of our last 5 and are about to get our ace back
Maybe some people are, but I am not using us hosting a regional as validation for this team not being disappointing. This team has been disappointing in a variety of ways. I simply posted this because there were people saying we wouldn’t host a regional
As for the rest of the season, I expect us to at least make a super and probably be in Omaha, but obviously that is just my opinion
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:27 pm to Terrific Tales
How is my first paragraph bullshite?
LINK
It clearly states that generally the number 1-16 seeds host the regionals, but geographical and financial considerations can be factors. What do you think that means? It means what it says. Hell, I remember regional where LSU was the host and we were the #2 seed in our own regional at the box. I've seen it happen elsewhere as well. It definitely happens. You don't think that it happens as well when two comperable teams are being considered as 1 seeds? Especially in down seasons like LSU is experiencing this season where we are definitely on the cusp of hosting/not hosting? It definitely does.
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It clearly states that generally the number 1-16 seeds host the regionals, but geographical and financial considerations can be factors. What do you think that means? It means what it says. Hell, I remember regional where LSU was the host and we were the #2 seed in our own regional at the box. I've seen it happen elsewhere as well. It definitely happens. You don't think that it happens as well when two comperable teams are being considered as 1 seeds? Especially in down seasons like LSU is experiencing this season where we are definitely on the cusp of hosting/not hosting? It definitely does.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:30 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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I remember regional where LSU was the host and we were the #2 seed in our own regional at the box
And what year was this? That shite dont happen anymore.
Again, please post the 16 resumes that are better than ours
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:30 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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Hell, I remember regional where LSU was the host and we were the #2 seed in our own regional at the box.
That happened 20 years ago
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:31 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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In regards to your post, LSU is not only underachieving according to the #1 ranking experts bestowed upon our team this season, we have been slowly declining all season long. It's to the point now where some of our fans are using LSU simply hosting a fricking regional as some sort of proper validation that our baseball team hasnt vastly underachieved, the program isnt on the decline under CPM, and that CPM as the head coach didn't fail to deliver the results that this 2019 LSU team had the potential to reach and at least should have been in a much better position than it is in at the moment. That's what myself, along with many other fans, are so upset about. It's bullshite.
So because some sports writers decided LSU was #1 before they even played ball we as fans are supposed to expect to hold the team & coaching staff to that level?
What do you consider underachieving? Should we have swept more series?
Should we have won the West or is that not enough, we should win the SEC?
Or is it because we were ranked preseason #1 nothing less than a Natty is acceptable?
Of course the program is declining, it has been since we won the last Natty, if you don’t win it the next year it’s a decline. Again, are you saying nothing less than a Natty is acceptable?
No one wants to admit injuries have had a lot to do with the way this season went.
There are many reasons this season didn’t live up to its #1 preseason potential, some CPM could control but not all of them.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:31 pm to Terrific Tales
Here you go, read this as well.
"The first tier, called Regionals, consists of 16 locations that include four teams, seeded 1 through 4, competing in a double-elimination bracket. The 16 host sites are determined mostly by merit – most No. 1 seeds host – but are also contested by bids from schools guaranteeing the NCAA a certain amount of revenue from that regional. Host teams traditionally have a large advantage, although the home team for each game is determined by rule, so the host school sometimes plays as the visiting team. The winner of each regional moves on to the second tier, the Super Regionals."
Pretty self explanatory to me. So, I ask you again...how is what I said in my first paragraph bullshite, when LSU can guarantee a lot more money and revenue to the ncaa by hosting? They take shite like that into consideration, as they should, but my point is, you don't think they just skip that bullshite in seeding teams like LSU this season that are at the lowest end of possible #1 seeds and higher end of #2 seeds, and just reward them the #1 seed and the host in the regional? Come on really?
"The first tier, called Regionals, consists of 16 locations that include four teams, seeded 1 through 4, competing in a double-elimination bracket. The 16 host sites are determined mostly by merit – most No. 1 seeds host – but are also contested by bids from schools guaranteeing the NCAA a certain amount of revenue from that regional. Host teams traditionally have a large advantage, although the home team for each game is determined by rule, so the host school sometimes plays as the visiting team. The winner of each regional moves on to the second tier, the Super Regionals."
Pretty self explanatory to me. So, I ask you again...how is what I said in my first paragraph bullshite, when LSU can guarantee a lot more money and revenue to the ncaa by hosting? They take shite like that into consideration, as they should, but my point is, you don't think they just skip that bullshite in seeding teams like LSU this season that are at the lowest end of possible #1 seeds and higher end of #2 seeds, and just reward them the #1 seed and the host in the regional? Come on really?
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:33 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
Dude, that’s related to teams that are good enough literally being unable to support a regional because of stadium size and other financial factors, not because they have less clout
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:34 pm to LSUJML
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No one wants to admit injuries have had a lot to do with the way this season went.
Huh?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:36 pm to Carville
He’s saying that people who criticize this team are ignoring the injuries they went through. Pretty self explanatory
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:39 pm to Terrific Tales
"The first tier, called Regionals, consists of 16 locations that include four teams, seeded 1 through 4, competing in a double-elimination bracket. The 16 host sites are determined mostly by merit – most No. 1 seeds host – but are also contested by bids from schools guaranteeing the NCAA a certain amount of revenue from that regional. Host teams traditionally have a large advantage, although the home team for each game is determined by rule, so the host school sometimes plays as the visiting team. The winner of each regional moves on to the second tier, the Super Regionals."
It means what it says. It's a bid based on potential revenue at a regional host sites in comparison to each other.
It means what it says. It's a bid based on potential revenue at a regional host sites in comparison to each other.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:41 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
Still waiting for you to post the 16 better resumes than LSU
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:42 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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amount of revenue from that regional
I.e. selling tickets
I.e. stadium size
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:44 pm to Terrific Tales
Exactly. Now, how many programs in college baseball do you know that 1, have the capacity of the box, and 2, can guarantee as much money generated by ticket sales as the box and LSU? That's the whole point.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:46 pm to FAP SAM
He's pulling that paragraph from Wikipedia. I can think of maybe 1 or 2 instances in the past 10-15 years where a #2 seed hosted and that was only because the #1 seed had issues with their stadium.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:47 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
It’s not just, oh we think team a is better but team b is offering slightly more money so they host. There is a certain amount of money that regionals have to make and if they can’t that’s when non 1 seed hosts come into play.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:49 pm to TigerCub
Right. One of the west coast teams did not have lights IIRC.
He still is ignoring the other part of his post which claimed that there were other small teams that had better resumes THIS year
He still is ignoring the other part of his post which claimed that there were other small teams that had better resumes THIS year
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:49 pm to FAP SAM
Well, as of right now LSU is ranked in the 20's nationally. There are 16 #1 seeds right? Common sense would say that the top 16 ranked teams should be awarded the regional host sites correct? You figure it out, it's not that hard. But guess what, the NCAA doesn't legitimately rank teams for baseball, so they don't mean shite to the selection committee. They seed teams as they see fit come tournament time. So, do you believe LSU is without question one of the best 16 teams in the nation? Honestly? I dont. Guess what though, LSU will host a regional as a #1 seed bc of our facilities and our guarantee to the ncaa to pack the box, which in turn puts more money in their pockets. What don't you understand?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:51 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
LINK
You can’t really trust the media polls in baseball, like ever
Just one example of a prediction we host. And if we do host it will be above UCSB and Miami at least which would make us 14
You can’t really trust the media polls in baseball, like ever
Just one example of a prediction we host. And if we do host it will be above UCSB and Miami at least which would make us 14
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 8:52 pm
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