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re: Tigers AD Scott Woodward says parting ways with Ed Orgeron was 'absolutely necessary'

Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4489 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:53 am to
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So, no link? If there were "many" supposed LSU fans that were miserable in 2019, surely you've got some kind of proof, right?
Having things written in stone is not absolutely necessary for some things to be.

Only a hollow person believes otherwise.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 11:56 am
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:05 pm to
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Having things written in stone is not absolutely necessary for some things to be.

Only a hollow person believes otherwise.

Wow this is deep.

Do you personally know anyone claiming to be an LSU fan that didn't love every second of the 2019 season? I sure as shite don't.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:07 pm to
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So, no link?


You were here, bitch.

Poor Damone needed therapy after 2019. He's still suffering.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:12 pm to
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You were here, bitch.

Angry lil feller. I was here, yes. And that was probably the most fun I've ever had as an LSU sports fan. 2007 was awesome because I was in college, but 2019 was pretty damn special. If you can find one solitary post of mine that points to be being miserable about LSU's success in 2019, I'll gladly self-ban permanently.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58732 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:25 pm to
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Much goes on behind the scenes that nobody sees starting way before games begin.

Certainly Brady, Ensminger, Aranda, Burrow and many others played a part. O always said it was one team one heartbeat. Everybody played their part perfectly.


So what was Ed's part? And why when those others left did the entire operation fall apart?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32746 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:26 pm to
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So what was Ed's part?

2019 succeeded because Ed didn't meddle with the offense or defense. So essentially he's at his best when he does absolutely nothing.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32746 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:27 pm to
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Poor Damone needed therapy after 2019.

Maybe after 2020 and 2021, those teams were so bad under Ed that I couldn't blame someone for being in distress and seeking help.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Poor Damone needed therapy after 2019.

Maybe after 2020 and 2021,


Damn son, you mean the Burrow years fricked you up to the present?

You do need therapy.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58732 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:31 pm to
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Damn son, you mean the Burrow years fricked you up to the present?


Burrow was here for the 2020 and 2021 seasons?
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9452 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Don't forget that he dirty recruited the living hell out of LSU when he was at Tennessee and Ole Miss, the only reason he ended up at LSU in the first place is because his dead beat arse was out of a job and Miles tossed him a lifeline.


Amazing how none of these type of comments were made while he was the HC at LSU. Especially in 18 & 19.
Posted by West Bank Dan
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2010
731 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:50 pm to
It is clear there are about ~10 posters that applied for a job and got turned down and / or O nailed their girlfriend in high school (or wife last month). We all knew who O was the day he got the job and the day he walked out. Totally perplexing why some need to throw garbage in the man’s yard. He gone bro
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4489 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 2:15 pm to
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So what was Ed's part? And why when those others left did the entire operation fall apart?


I'm not saying he did all of this, and I'm not saying he did any of it great. But if you think he did none of it and had zero contribution to that title then you're a fool. I don't have to be in the building to know that he didn't just sit around on his arse.

Job Title Definition:

The Head Coach oversees all aspects of the varsity program, including: hires, supervises, and evaluates Assistant Coaches; identifies, recruits, and retains top prospective student-athletes; establishes a competitive schedule and coordinates team travel; responds to media requests; and promotes the team; coordinates practice planning, skill development, and designs coaching strategies which prepare team for competition; establishes and enforces rules of conduct as well as mentors student-athletes to foster athletic, academic, emotional, and social growth; collaborates with athletic and University units’ admissions, financial aid, medical services, academic support, judicial affairs, student-athlete services, compliance office; guides the professional development of assistant coaches by providing expanded responsibilities, regular appraisals, and annual performance reviews; demonstrates adherence to University, conference, and NCAA rules and regulations while overseeing activities of Assistant Coaches, staff, and student-athletes to verify compliance with a clear mandate to self-report any violations; supports community service efforts by involving the coaching staff as well as student-athletes. Duties are performed at various levels within the defined title.

Once more, if you think he did nothing then Joe Burrow must have been on drugs during his Heisman speech.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58732 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 3:05 pm to
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I'm not saying he did all of this, and I'm not saying he did any of it great. But if you think he did none of it and had zero contribution to that title then you're a fool. I don't have to be in the building to know that he didn't just sit around on his arse.


Meh. The entire staff had some sort of contribution. But no, I don't think he really had much to do with 2019. And lol at that description of the Head Coach's duties. Ed doesn't have the intelligence to satisfy even a significant portion of those responsibilities.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14808 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:05 pm to
Time will tell.

I know the UCLA, OM, and Kentucky games were pathetic, but to me it was still one bad season following the GOAT and subsequent massive departures of both players and coaches.

2020 was a glorified exhibition season that really shouldn’t be held against anyone. We were lucky we got football at all, and the gameplay obviously suffered from lack of spring and most of summer.

So in legit seasons you go
9-4
10-3
15-0
6-6

And get fired? That’s a clear upward trend leading to an unprecedented peak followed by a steep drop off.

Before all the downvotes are belonging to me, y’all should know that outside of this echo chamber and especially among non-SEC observers, we fire championship coaches like it’s changing underwear.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32746 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:11 pm to
Did Covid make Ed hire Bo Pelini sight unseen and field the worst defense in school history?

Did it make every legitimate coordinator laugh in Ed’s face leaving him no option but to hire young, unproven, and ultimately not good coordinators?
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14808 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:14 pm to
Again, flush 2020. It was an anomalous situation without much predictive value.

But the coordinator hires in 2021 are certainly fair game - Jones showed some potential towards the end but obviously wasn’t ready to step into the P5 DC role when hired.

Peetz was a disaster. I’m pretty sure he was having panic attacks up there and had to breathe into a paper bag.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

Again, flush 2020

Lol
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14808 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:22 pm to
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lsu2006


Surprise surprise.

In evaluating a coach why should you really value how he performs when, after going undefeated and losing almost every starter and assistant coach, he doesn’t get a Spring with this all-new team because of a (hopefully) one-off external event?

That situation is (again being hopeful here) not likely to ever present itself again, so why should you really care how he performed through it?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58732 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:34 pm to
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ForeverEllisHugh


You’re one of the worst.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14808 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:40 pm to
Refute the argument.

So the coach did poorly with a whole new starting lineup, two new coordinators, and limited prep time because of the China virus.

Unless you’re expecting that to become the norm, why give it too much weight?
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