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This is what I took from Miles Press Conference Comments...
Posted on 9/28/09 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 9/28/09 at 11:16 pm
"I am a hard-headed SOB and I am going to continue to run my tailbacks between the tackles on 1st down with 7-8 men in the box. I have not learned my lesson."
Man how I wish this wasn't the case.
To my point, Jefferson is completing 66% of his passes on 1st down this year. Play selection and timing of play calls...not formation...is huring LSU the most IMO. LSU could use I formation personnel to draw 7-8 in the box, go max protect, and make a living off of one on one with LaFell and Toliver on the edge. We have 2 potential NFL 1st rounders...use them more on 1st down!!!!!!
I loved the 2 or 3 times they did this on 1st downs againt State using deep comeback routes along the sidelines. Very safe pass if executed properly.
Honestly, I'm tired of hearing Miles complain about the OLine and our inability to run the football effectively. NOBODY can run consistently into 8 men in the box...I don't care who you are.
Coaching decisions and play calling are hurting our run game this year just as much as our O-Line.
The key to LSU's offense, regardless of offensive set, is to take what the defense is giving us. We have not thrown the ball enough when teams have taken away our run game by putting 8 men in the box.
This is actually a blessing if Miles would take advantage of it instead of being a stubborn idiot. Teams are GIVING us match-ups we should be begging for with LaFell and Toliver one on one in the secondary...and we aren't taking advantage of them enough.
I am more concerned about pass blocking than run blocking moving forward. I know we can't run block well between the tackles and nothing will drastically change that fact over the course of the season, but we have to at least be effective pass blocking if we are going to be successful down the stretch.
Oh yeah...and if Miles objective was really to improve rushing stats rather than proving he can run the ball between the tackles effectively come hell or high water...he would let Shepard touch the ball 15 times a game and he would have a 1,000 yard rusher by season's end.
Man how I wish this wasn't the case.
To my point, Jefferson is completing 66% of his passes on 1st down this year. Play selection and timing of play calls...not formation...is huring LSU the most IMO. LSU could use I formation personnel to draw 7-8 in the box, go max protect, and make a living off of one on one with LaFell and Toliver on the edge. We have 2 potential NFL 1st rounders...use them more on 1st down!!!!!!
I loved the 2 or 3 times they did this on 1st downs againt State using deep comeback routes along the sidelines. Very safe pass if executed properly.
Honestly, I'm tired of hearing Miles complain about the OLine and our inability to run the football effectively. NOBODY can run consistently into 8 men in the box...I don't care who you are.
Coaching decisions and play calling are hurting our run game this year just as much as our O-Line.
The key to LSU's offense, regardless of offensive set, is to take what the defense is giving us. We have not thrown the ball enough when teams have taken away our run game by putting 8 men in the box.
This is actually a blessing if Miles would take advantage of it instead of being a stubborn idiot. Teams are GIVING us match-ups we should be begging for with LaFell and Toliver one on one in the secondary...and we aren't taking advantage of them enough.
I am more concerned about pass blocking than run blocking moving forward. I know we can't run block well between the tackles and nothing will drastically change that fact over the course of the season, but we have to at least be effective pass blocking if we are going to be successful down the stretch.
Oh yeah...and if Miles objective was really to improve rushing stats rather than proving he can run the ball between the tackles effectively come hell or high water...he would let Shepard touch the ball 15 times a game and he would have a 1,000 yard rusher by season's end.
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 11:17 pm to TigerCorp
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I am a hard-headed SOB and I am going to continue to run my tailbacks between the tackles on 1st down with 7-8 men in the box. I have not learned my lesso
that was Songy's exact take. its bad when Buddy takes his shots b/c he is the biggest cheerleader for lsu
This post was edited on 9/28/09 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 9/28/09 at 11:29 pm to sheek
I just dont' get it. Ego is the only thing I can come up with.
I guess I would liken it to Spurrier against LSU in '97...we took away his long passing game that night, but he was damn determined to throw long on us all night. If he would have just taken what we were giving them, they would have won.
IMO, his ego got in the way of what was best for his team.
I don't think anyone will argue with Miles over the importance of being able to run the football, but I would argue that running the football efficiently and when the defense dictates that you run it, is far more important than being able to run between the tackles come hell or high water.
There are other ways to effectively rush the football that don't involve a tailback running between the tackles.
I guess I would liken it to Spurrier against LSU in '97...we took away his long passing game that night, but he was damn determined to throw long on us all night. If he would have just taken what we were giving them, they would have won.
IMO, his ego got in the way of what was best for his team.
I don't think anyone will argue with Miles over the importance of being able to run the football, but I would argue that running the football efficiently and when the defense dictates that you run it, is far more important than being able to run between the tackles come hell or high water.
There are other ways to effectively rush the football that don't involve a tailback running between the tackles.
Posted on 9/28/09 at 11:32 pm to TigerCorp
man i like miles alot as a person. i think he is genuinely a superb guy. but god damn he is really pissing me off as a coach.
at this point, if there was a ranking of coaches, im not sure he would crack the top 25.
at this point, if there was a ranking of coaches, im not sure he would crack the top 25.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:02 am to sabans ovaries
I went back and read some of Miles comments from presser today and he may have finally tipped his hand when he basically said in so many words that he owed running the ball (ie between the tackles) better to Scott...and Keiland.
Maybe Miles is trying to show loyalty to Scott who elected to come back for his senior year. Hell, Miles may have even promised Scott "x" number of carries or what have you and now he is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
This is the most likely thing I can come up with...though I still don't agree with it if true.
Maybe Miles is trying to show loyalty to Scott who elected to come back for his senior year. Hell, Miles may have even promised Scott "x" number of carries or what have you and now he is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
This is the most likely thing I can come up with...though I still don't agree with it if true.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:04 am to TigerCorp
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Maybe Miles is trying to show loyalty to Scott who elected to come back for his senior year.
That would not surprise me...Its so fricking frustrating
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:04 am to TigerCorp
I am going to laugh my arse off when Jefferson actually throws a play action bomb for a TD on the first play. I would even line up Scott at FB and Williams at TB.
Then I would hope Miles would say "that was for all for the negatiger dumbasses that question a NC coach on what the frick he is doing" during the half time interview.
Then I would hope Miles would say "that was for all for the negatiger dumbasses that question a NC coach on what the frick he is doing" during the half time interview.
This post was edited on 9/29/09 at 12:08 am
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:05 am to TigerCorp
quote:
"I am a hard-headed SOB and I am going to continue to run my tailbacks between the tackles on 1st down with 7-8 men in the box. I have not learned my lesson."
VERY dinardo-esque
not necessarily the playcalling, but just being completely stubborn
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:14 am to TigerCorp
and one more thing...until we start allowing Jefferson (who is over 6-4 by the way) to throw the ball over the middle on a semi-regular basis...defenses will continue to run blitz and pass blitz with their middle backers at will b/c they know they don't have to respect the middle if the field.
If I was a def coord. Going up against LSU, I would gladly sacrifice the one, maybe two potential 10-15 yard receptions each game from Dickson if that meant it would almost guarantee shutting down LSU's run game and potentially cause 5-6 more qb hurries or an additional sack or two.
Handcuffs need to start coming off beginning this week.
If I was a def coord. Going up against LSU, I would gladly sacrifice the one, maybe two potential 10-15 yard receptions each game from Dickson if that meant it would almost guarantee shutting down LSU's run game and potentially cause 5-6 more qb hurries or an additional sack or two.
Handcuffs need to start coming off beginning this week.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:21 am to TigerCorp
TD bomb on first play would be great, but unless miles/crowton's philosophies change over what I have seen this far, that would be the only bomb all day and he would commence pounding the ball between the tackles thereafter.
My point is he should keep burning their asses all day long until they took it away from me. Once bomb won't be enough to win this weekend IMO.
My point is he should keep burning their asses all day long until they took it away from me. Once bomb won't be enough to win this weekend IMO.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:21 am to TigerCorp
quote:
If I was a def coord. Going up against LSU, I would gladly sacrifice the one, maybe two potential 10-15 yard receptions each game from Dickson if that meant it would almost guarantee shutting down LSU's run game and potentially cause 5-6 more qb hurries or an additional sack or two.
thank god you're not the coordinator for georgia or we'd be in trouble.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:24 am to Saint Nicholas
You got that from him talking about going to the pass more and making anybody that loads the box pay for it?
Really Kreskin?
Really Kreskin?
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:30 am to TigerCorp
play calling is awful this year and mostly all of last year except a few games. we need to pass it more on 1st and 10 we have great receivers and probably a great quarterback we just cant see that jefferson is that great because of the stupid play calls 
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:39 am to lsutiger2486
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I am going to laugh my arse off when Jefferson actually throws a play action bomb for a TD on the first play. I would even line up Scott at FB and Williams at TB.
Then I would hope Miles would say "that was for all for the negatiger dumbasses that question a NC coach on what the frick he is doing" during the half time interview.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:41 am to lsuking8
I have learned u have to read between the lines with Miles Kreskin. He is a master at pissing on the medias head and telling them it's raining.
I have never heard a man use more words to say absolutely nothing of substance. It's often what's not said that is the most telling, but every once in a while he slips up and tips his hand.
I have never heard a man use more words to say absolutely nothing of substance. It's often what's not said that is the most telling, but every once in a while he slips up and tips his hand.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:41 am to Saint Nicholas
We still haven't seen much of Shepard and when we do he makes about 6 yds a run and we definitely haven't seen him throw the ball yet in the wildcat formation. And in offense all we have seen really is short passes and options...
We as LSU fans know damn well LaFell and Toliver can out run and out play just about every defender that the SEC has to offer. and yet we haven't really seen an aggressive play call as of yet..
I would laugh my arse off if Miles and Company wasn't showing their cards until the real games came about... I'm still thinking LSU is hiding the good stuff...
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:44 am to ConchTiger
Les Miles is 110% right wheter you think so or not. We HAVE TO find a running game. Shep running out of the wildcat will move the ball, but it does nothing for playaction when jefferson drops back to throw. You cannot just drop back and throw 40x with a sophmore qb, no respect for your running game, and be successful in this leauge. If you listen to the whole presser, miles says they will have to throw it more and better inorder to get the running game going. That is the idea at this point. We cannont impose our will with the o-line we have this year. Not yet.
This post was edited on 9/29/09 at 12:46 am
Posted on 9/29/09 at 1:16 am to TigerCorp
The sad thing is...Miles can still show Scott/Keiland loyalty if he'd stopped being a stubborn frick. Soften the 8-9 man boxes up with the pass on first down. Once that happens, they have no choice but to start respecting over the top more. Which will in turn open the run game up more. Or at least make it easier. Doesn't take a genius to figure this out. You have one of the best route-runners in CFB in Lafell...use him on first down more.
This post was edited on 9/29/09 at 1:17 am
Posted on 9/29/09 at 3:27 am to deuce985
Miles is damn stubborn IMO. To this day, I think the 2006 Tigers was the best team in our history, but we didn't make to the MNC because Miles was too stubborn to move away from the run and let Russell throw until the second half of the Auburn game. I think the FLA game was a coaching cluster-f##k as well, but we made a lot of mistakes in that game too. But we still could have won the NC with that loss. But the coaching at Auburn sank us. I don't know why Crowton stays at LSU because you know its not his idea to run Scott up the middle for no gain the entire game.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 6:09 am to TigerCorp
you have got 2 senior power backs, and a finesse offensive line
that shoud at least be able to pass block. this combination of
talent is not working. what you need is to spread it out. use
shepperd, holiday and calhoun as a spread back who can make
the cuts thru huge splits in the offensive line. keep the wild tiger
vanilla, but practice the triple option with sheppherd , and jefferson as the qb's , scott as the fb and kw as the hb. the power i is not
working, unless a hurst or someone like that can come off the
bench as left guard and dawarzic sp? goes to blocking tight end.
that shoud at least be able to pass block. this combination of
talent is not working. what you need is to spread it out. use
shepperd, holiday and calhoun as a spread back who can make
the cuts thru huge splits in the offensive line. keep the wild tiger
vanilla, but practice the triple option with sheppherd , and jefferson as the qb's , scott as the fb and kw as the hb. the power i is not
working, unless a hurst or someone like that can come off the
bench as left guard and dawarzic sp? goes to blocking tight end.
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