re: This is what happens when you fire a Will Wade

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But but but he's a sloppy cheater

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the other sloppy cheaters are still employed

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Wade couldn’t coach a game. He could recruit with cash though. Wade left a disaster and left the cupboard bare.

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Will Wade won a lot of games in his time her.

You say it was only because of players. What NBA stars won those games for us? What did Will Wade end up with, 2 first round picks in his 5 years here?

That’s really not a lot. Especially for you to say we only won because of talent.

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With potential sanctions looming, no big name was going to take the job.

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I keep seeing posts insinuating that the football program was under suspicion for violations under Miles. Is that the reason Orgeron was hired, interim coach, until it was brought under control, then fire him and hire BK?
Is that the reason O was paid off and told to leave?

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Couldn’t even stay in the top 64 teams yearly.

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Even if true sounds pretty good compared to now tbh

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Yep, Pearl Cal and Kelvin Sampson all did much worse than WW

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Pearl paid for it with a show cause and losing his job.

Cal has fall guys. Nothing has ever stuck to him. Just others and the programs he’s left. They couldn’t even hit Memphis with anything beyond some level 2 travel payment bullshite on Derrick Rose’s brother/handler. They just took the wins with Derrick Rose because they retroactively said he was ineligible…after investigating and saying he would be eligible before the season.

What Sampson did was different. His infractions were minor. I think it was improper contact during a dead or quiet period. Where he got in trouble was lying to the NCAA about it and then getting hit with proof that he did it.

Wade lied and was stupid in how he handled shite directly like a fricking bush league coach.

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They’re talking about Pearl at Auburn where he was tied to the same case Wade was. They were being paid by a sports agency and funneling money to players so those players would sign with the agency when they left college. It’s not paying players to come to your school but it’s just as serious as what Wade’s been accused of. Coaches went to prison for it.

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Did they ever tie Pearl directly to it with paper or wire taps? If they had, he wouldn’t be there anymore.

Wade is different in that he not only got caught bragging about shite on tape (survivable since it was vague enough), but he then also got caught with a paper trail. You just can’t be that fricking stupid as a P5 head coach.

Will Wade is garbage.

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His assistants fell on the sword. Chuck Person and and Merl Code. Ok and those wire taps are not what Wade’s in trouble for. The judge threw them out in the court case involving Dawkins. Wade got caught being extorted by some ex players girlfriend.

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I get that, but everyone knew about those taps and what was said and that got the NCAA digging for more. That is all it takes.

It’s like what happened to Freeze at Ole Miss before the whole escort debacle. He kept talking shite to the NCAA (admittedly worse than any public denials from Wade) about how they hadn’t done anything wrong and once there was more blood in the water, the NCAA went in hard looking for anything else they could find. That’s what they do.

The paper trail was death and he left it and didn’t even make it hard to find.

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My thing is we made a bad hire and we didn’t have to do that. Even though we knew we might have to fire Wade hiring McMahon looked like we were unprepared and hadn’t even made an effort to vet candidates. Like we had nobody watching basketball to see who was out there.

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Meh. This is easy to say in hindsight. McMahon has had success finding talent that others overlooked (Ja Morant) and kept winning after he moved on to the NBA. We were limited to mid-majors or retreads with baggage and his resume was pretty damn good considering the situation at the time. I was surprised he took the job, frankly.

Mid major coaches are hard to project. Some make the move up with relative ease, some take time, and others flame out. McMahon is going to take time at the very least. But that doesn’t mean looking around longer would have brought us anyone different.

Plus, McMahon is seen as squeaky clean. That’s exactly what Woody was looking for after Wade. That’s a common reaction from an AD looking to change the culture around a program.