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re: This is the most telling statement ever on LSU vs Bama
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:22 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:22 pm to dgnx6
it's not about keeping up. it's about being a pioneer and innovator. that's where we lag behind and whether or not that is on Les, it falls in line with his coaching personality so it's easy to make that mental connection (fair or not)
and the buildings are one thing, but this is about attacking new areas (like social media, 4 years ago) and finding new efficiencies in the process before others to attack. does our football team even have an analytics staff? that's an honest question not a gotcha
and the buildings are one thing, but this is about attacking new areas (like social media, 4 years ago) and finding new efficiencies in the process before others to attack. does our football team even have an analytics staff? that's an honest question not a gotcha
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Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:23 pm to TutHillTiger
Interesting, I read that and I think the issue (and have thought the issue) is the chain of command above Miles.
The real difference between the two is not coaching staffs or talent, it is leadership at the AD and to some extent President and Board level.
If that was not the case there would be no "Miles" clause issue forcing Chief out, delaying the hiring of Aranda a year, the BS in the later half of the season that nearly sunk the recruiting class - none of that would have happened.
The real difference between the two is not coaching staffs or talent, it is leadership at the AD and to some extent President and Board level.
If that was not the case there would be no "Miles" clause issue forcing Chief out, delaying the hiring of Aranda a year, the BS in the later half of the season that nearly sunk the recruiting class - none of that would have happened.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:23 pm to DontCare
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Believe it or not, SlowFlowPro, it is possible to have a discussion about LSU that doesn't require exalting Bama.
well this is a thread about the 2 teams playing for the natty tomorrow night
it's impossible to discuss becoming a title-contending team without discussing Bama b/c the national championship is their back yard
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:23 pm to dgnx6
Its disappointing that LSU's fan base is so divided. If we cant agree on what it takes to be as elite as bama than how can we expect it from any administration.
The fact is, everyone needs to realize that LSU clearly doesnt have what the man said. Re Read it again
Every LSU fan / donor needs to realize that until the LSU admin is like the above....it wont matter who the coaches are.
National Champioship elite programs function that way and it is a fact. That is why this thread should be stickied.
The fact is, everyone needs to realize that LSU clearly doesnt have what the man said. Re Read it again
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When the head coach is in line with the (athletics director) and the AD with the trustees and with the president, you can get all those egos aligned that’s when you can be great. That’s what Alabama had and that’s why we’re where we are today.”
Every LSU fan / donor needs to realize that until the LSU admin is like the above....it wont matter who the coaches are.
National Champioship elite programs function that way and it is a fact. That is why this thread should be stickied.
This post was edited on 1/10/16 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:28 pm to MoreOrLes
Further,
If LSU admin is not changed, it wont matter who the next Coach at LSU is, he wont be a perrenial presence in the National Championship picture either.
Thats why i say, F King and Alleva have to go and go first.
And to toot my own horn a bit.......
Earlier this year i authored several threads wanting Joe Alleva to restate the goals for the football program. I wanted him to say that it was a goal for LSU to win national championships.
As of this moment it is not one of the stated goals. Why not?
If LSU admin is not changed, it wont matter who the next Coach at LSU is, he wont be a perrenial presence in the National Championship picture either.
Thats why i say, F King and Alleva have to go and go first.
And to toot my own horn a bit.......
Earlier this year i authored several threads wanting Joe Alleva to restate the goals for the football program. I wanted him to say that it was a goal for LSU to win national championships.
As of this moment it is not one of the stated goals. Why not?
This post was edited on 1/10/16 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:29 pm to MoreOrLes
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Thats why i say, F King and Alleva have to go and go first.
Yes, the problem at LSU isn't limited to the HC. The debacle during the A&M game and the week prior proved that.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and the buildings are one thing, but this is about attacking new areas (like social media, 4 years ago) and finding new efficiencies in the process before others to attack. does our football team even have an analytics staff? that's an honest question not a gotcha
Don't know, but Im pointing out facilities because that's easily noticed.
Most people point out LSU has the highest paid staff. It is completely false. Highest paid coordinator is one thing but LSU is no where close to the highest paid staff, tOSU spends millions more than LSU does.
I would be fine if LSU had someone doing analytics, NFL franchises do it.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well this is a thread about the 2 teams playing for the natty tomorrow night
Exactly. This thread is not about LSU, thus, it has no place on the rant. Perhaps you should post about how great Bama is on the SEC rant or the Bama page.
I'm all about discussing things that could make LSU better, like analytics. But, if we're discussing the incorporation of analytics into our athletic department, that has nothing to do with Bama. Instead, you should be talking about the Oakland A's, who actually pioneered the use of analytics in a sports franchise.
Why are you so obsessed with devoting the conversation to Bama?
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:32 pm to TutHillTiger
Bama worries about one sport. Football. They pour everything into the football program. LSU tries to be well rounded in the big 3 sports. Personally I like having teams year round that are competitive to watch. The offseason in Alabama has got to be brutal.
This post was edited on 1/10/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:33 pm to DontCare
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Why are you so obsessed with devoting the conversation to Bama?
they are the gold standard of CFB
we can't discuss becoming the best without discussing the Alabama football program
hell, we can't discuss being the best in our division without that comparison
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes, the problem at LSU isn't limited to the HC. The debacle during the A&M game and the week prior proved that.
Thats correct Roger and it is my hope that the rest of the fan base realizes it and forms a collective outcry.
If that happens and it forces the changes and put all on the same page than the sleeping GIANT that is LSU will be an unstoppable force.
Other coaches and other fanbases know this and fear it happening.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:35 pm to DontCare
The article is about bama and how Clemson emulated or is trying to emulate that process. Seems to have worked out for them.
We are talking about how LSU can get back to that level, and there is more to it than just firing coaches left and rt.
We are talking about how LSU can get back to that level, and there is more to it than just firing coaches left and rt.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:35 pm to joeytiger
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LSU tries to be well rounded in the big 3 sports.
well i don't know much about Bama baseball, but they haven't ignored basketball
they hired anthony grant when he was one of the hottest names in CFB and just hired a former NBA head coach
Auburn is much more inferior in terms of basketball (and Baseball i'd imagine)
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:36 pm to DontCare
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DontCare
I hate bama also but your hatred of them is blinding you to the big picture.
You and SFP really should be on the same page not fighting.
Go back and read my posts and you will get it.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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when he was one of the hottest names in CFB and just hired a former NBA head coach
Paying Grant 2 million was still questionable at the time of his hiring due to him having previously never coached at a P5 school. Bama in this time around seemed desperate for a reputable name. We'll have to see how Johnson works out long term.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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oh and they beat us last time we played
Not relevant
LSU is better program than Clemson, it's not close
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:40 pm to lsusteve1
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LSU is better program than Clemson, it's not close
It's very close.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:41 pm to lsusteve1
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LSU is better program than Clemson, it's not close
Nope
As much as it pains me to say. Clemson, at the moment is a better program. Their trajectory has exceeded ours. In fact, ours has been, at best, flat.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:42 pm to lsusteve1
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LSU is better program than Clemson, it's not close
They are starting to be up there with the big boys in facilities.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:42 pm to DontCare
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DontCare
You have to discuss Bama when talking about where we are lacking as a program.
I'm sorry you can't handle it.
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