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re: Things we learned about LSU against UF

Posted on 10/4/09 at 2:23 am to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24935 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 2:23 am to
quote:

The decision to go for it on 4th and inches inside the 10 was a poor one


The decision to go for it on 4th and inches was the CORRECT call. What kind of a panzy wants to settle for 3 freaking field goals when you can spit to paydirt and all you need is a few inches.
Posted by Leonides
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
1270 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 2:46 am to
quote:

The decision to go for it on 4th and inches was the CORRECT call. What kind of a panzy wants to settle for 3 freaking field goals when you can spit to paydirt and all you need is a few inches.


The correct call? Obviously not. LSU failed to convert and came away with no points. Even Miles admitted he made a mistake.

What kind of "panzy" settles for 3 field goals? The kind of panzy coach who realizes a third of the way into the game that it will be a low scoring affair, his defense is throttling the other team's offense, and that he has an offensive line that has not shown an ability to dominate on the interior of the line so that a 4th and inches is not even close to a sure bet, whereas a chip shot field goal is.

Because the game was going to be low scoring, points are at a premium, even if scoring them 3 at a time. If the score had been 9-0, then UGA has to score twice to take the lead, not once, as happened.
Posted by Raz
Member since Oct 2006
7983 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 4:34 am to
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The correct call? Obviously not. LSU failed to convert and came away with no points.


Seriously, what type of work do you do that you can get by with such flawed, results oriented thinking? A play call is incorrect because it didn't work?
Posted by tarsier99
Manassas, VA
Member since Sep 2007
49 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 5:37 am to
We won't see Sheppard as the "option guy" because the entire stadium, and the other team, will know that is what's coming. Crowton has shown much predictability in that regard. I would love to see what is suggested, and allow Sheppard to run the option for at least 3-4 plays against Florida, though I bet we will get 0 yards, if ONLY they would allow him to pull up on a later option and make a deep pass.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 5:42 am to
Not that the line got a good push, but I thought the spot was pretty bad on that play too.
Posted by cggeaxtigers
Southeastern, North America
Member since Jan 2008
3264 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 5:54 am to
I agree on some points.

1. Shep is just a freshman playing the most difficult positions (as well as a few others). He needs to put on 10 pounds. This will all come.

2. JJ is a good option qb - as CBS pointed out - he needs to run more horizontal to the LOS rather than going back into the backfield.

5. Totally agree about the D. Different styles but good results.

Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 7:07 am to
supra, Great take on things and the best thing I've read in weeks.




and


quote:

LSU is a 25 pound monkey with a hedge trimmer for a penis


I laughed

Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
43576 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 7:16 am to
Damn, supa, that post rocks.

It's good to see someone who understands the game and this team / coaching staff.

The JJ / Shep teaching comment is a great observation. Wish so many other tards would take time to step back and examine the realities of CFB and see why decisions are made the way they are.

Even the 4th and 1 call - INCLUDING the formation. That was a call-out to our O-line - had we made that play, UGA would have had no game the reset of the game. That was a "you're our bitch" call. Would have been something to get a a yard or two on it.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28468 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 7:17 am to
#7 I don't understand why Patrick Peterson wasn't following A. J. Green to the locker room to watch him piss in the 4th quarter. With the game on the line, you put your best against their best and may the best man win. I feel bad for Hawkins, because he played that pass to Green in the end zone as well as he could possibly have played it. Unfortunately, Green was the better man on that play. Still, if it had been PP defending and in the same position, I am quite certain the outcome is either an incomplete pass or an INT.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 7:23 am to
i totally agree. knowing that's probably their best option to score, we should have had PP 1v1 with CJ helping over the top.. and come up with some type of blitz i would imagine
Posted by Mister Completely
Marital Bliss
Member since Nov 2007
3064 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 7:31 am to
quote:

The decision to go for it on 4th and inches was the CORRECT call. What kind of a panzy wants to settle for 3 freaking field goals when you can spit to paydirt and all you need is a few inches.


Nothing wrong with using a play action call in that instance (like UGA did to us on their 1st TD). It seems like we have not had a great deal of success through 5 games at being able to convert 3rd and 4th down with a yard or less to go.

That being said, there's also the old saying about taking the points when you're on the road. Being up 2 scores on the road in that type of game would be huge.


quote:

supatigah

drop that knowledge on 'em, son.
Posted by Reel Gator
Member since Sep 2007
325 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 7:48 am to
I honestly think Shepard should start saturday night and you should bench Jefferson! Lol. In all seriousness...Shepard will be a weapon soon for you..but its easy to tell he isnt versed enough on offensive plays to be out there much.
He will be a thorn for many SEC foes in years to come...trust me. Once he doesnt have to think and can just react....look out.
Posted by LAfootballDude
Sulphur
Member since Feb 2007
2425 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 7:55 am to
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On Hanagriff/Rush tonight they mentioned the Bandit package of 4 DEs on the LOS making a comeback and since DE depth is a strength right now and DT depth isn't, it might be a good idea to try it. The extra speed on the front could be especially effective against UF, who doesn't have a physical RB to punish 4 DEs on the LOS.


Maybe not a bad idea, but tebow (if he is on the field) will be an obvious monkey wrench in that strategy
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24482 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 7:59 am to
supa:
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1383 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 8:05 am to
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#2 JJ is a terrible option quarterback (because he is solely a pitch man)

JJ was good with the option in UW game. In its aftermath, everyone said that QB cannot take hits on keepers in option plays. I assume that the coaches have instructed him to keep only if he has a clear lane.

I would not find any fault with that logic either. Coaches are working with a QB. They would not want to work with a new QB if JJ needs to get off the field. With JL game plan would have to be altered as well.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 8:09 am to
Great post Supa. I agree 110%
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1383 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 8:11 am to
quote:

25 pound monkey

O Ye of little math faith. Zero in 1s (ones) place still has value.
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1383 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 8:14 am to
quote:

DL scheme S-U-C-K-S. Little stunting.

It's the fans who are obsessed with stunting. If the game plan is not affected by any amount of stunting, you do not have to stunt.

quote:

Alem still runs himself out of every pass rush.

Selective memory. Alem stayed on line of scrimmage and affected passes too.

quote:

Florida will expose this

Now you are qualified to be a TV analyst.
This post was edited on 10/4/09 at 8:17 am
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
53035 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 8:20 am to
quote:

supatigah

Great post

What gets me is the play calling. The offense completly dominates the first half between the 20's with great play calling...then they get in the red zone and don't know what to call anymore. The same with the start of the second half...why start being conservative again?

They improved a ton and I'm happy with the win...
Posted by Vindicated
NC
Member since Oct 2008
537 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 8:21 am to
We learned they are getting better week by week...
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