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re: They're hating on Shaq

Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:52 am to
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7676 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:52 am to
"Shaq is an analysis now"

Posted by Mr Hugo
Member since Jun 2011
237 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:03 am to
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Dude's purple & gold glasses are glued on more than the Miles suck offs.


Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13673 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:06 am to
Surpise, surprise the rant leaps to defend Shaq. Not sure why half of you mention how much better Shaq was than Dwight, nobody is saying otherwise and it's really not relevant to this topic. Dwight isnt definitely deserves his share of criticism, but Shaq seems to have had a real jealousy of him for a few years now and it just makes him look so insecure.
Anyway Shaq is wrong here, there's no real argument for Lopez or Bynum over Howard. He's better than both in almost all aspects.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15899 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:10 am to
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It was Shaq's trademark for a while. Dude showed up to the '97 Florida game with a big black leather trench coat with the superman logo on it. It was on the headrests of his cars.


Jessie James made a superman chopper for Shaq
Posted by fjohns1
Member since Oct 2011
1333 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:10 am to
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howard's more athletic.


Yeah now....no way he was more athletic than shaq is his prime. Shaq could go coast to coast do a spin move then drop a finger roll on you when he was in his prime. dwight can barely even dribble
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
9932 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:12 am to
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Surpise, surprise the rant leaps to defend Shaq. Not sure why half of you mention how much better Shaq was than Dwight, nobody is saying otherwise and it's really not relevant to this topic. Dwight isnt definitely deserves his share of criticism, but Shaq seems to have had a real jealousy of him for a few years now and it just makes him look so insecure. Anyway Shaq is wrong here, there's no real argument for Lopez or Bynum over Howard. He's better than both in almost all aspects.


Lopez is more skilled than Howard. He has a legit low post game, can rebound, and defend. Lopez is more complete at
the position than Howard. Howard is far better than Bynum tough.
Posted by Mr Hugo
Member since Jun 2011
237 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:16 am to
Howard needs to grow up and stop acting like a 8 year old boy that cant handle criticism without crying.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13673 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:22 am to
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Lopez is more skilled than Howard. He has a legit low post game, can rebound, and defend. Lopez is more complete at the position than Howard. Howard is far better than Bynum tough.

Dont really care who you think is more skilled. Check the numbers, Howard is more productive. Lopez averaged 6 rebounds a game to Dwight's 14 in 10-11. Compare their PER, EWA, etc. It's not even close really.
Posted by YoungJR24
Member since Jul 2007
1090 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:24 am to
Shaq is one to talk about somebody's post game. All his points came on dunks or 5 ft jump hooks after he pushed the defender down to the basket because of his size. Shaq has never had a jump shot either. Plus Shaq was never close to being the defensive player that Dwight Howard is or rebounder. When Shaq actually had to play against another good/great center he played like shite. For example against Hakeem, Robinson, Duncan, Divac, and Sabonis. Those series that his teammates had to carry him in just to get him to the finals where he could win those finals MVPs where the only decent center he went against was Motombo
Posted by 3xlsugrad
Member since Feb 2012
11037 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:46 am to
Good.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
40469 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:51 am to
at least the Lakers won't have to worry about DH getting fat on them.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 12:02 pm to
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Shaq is one to talk about somebody's post game.


Then you post this in the very next sentence.

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All his points came on dunks or 5 ft jump hooks after he pushed the defender down to the basket because of his size


And now these gems:

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Shaq was never close to being the defensive player that Dwight Howard


He's #7 all-time in blocked shots.

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or rebounder.


He's #13 all-time.
Posted by YoungJR24
Member since Jul 2007
1090 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 12:27 pm to
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Shaq was never close to being the defensive player that Dwight Howard



He's #7 all-time in blocked shots.

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or rebounder.



He's #13 all-time.



And what? He did that in a 19 year career. Dwight has only been in the league 8 years and has 3 DPOY awards, led the league in rebounds 5 times which Shaq never did, led the league in blocks 2 times and he's only 5,000 rebounds behind Shaq and 1,400 blocks. Give Dwight just a 16 year career and he is projected to be 3,000 rebounds ahead and equal with Shaq in blocks. Not to mention Shaq played half of his career without a defensive 3 second rule where he could camp out in the paint and against centers and power forwards in the league that didn't have him guarding outside of the lane like big men like Gasol, Dirk, Yao, and many others do now. You seen when Shaq was with Lebron in Cleveland they had to bench him in the 4th quarter in the playoffs against Dwight because he was getting killed on the pick and roll with Dwight and Hedo
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Mr Hugo
Member since Jun 2011
237 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:06 pm to
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YoungJR24


24? Is that your age? That would explain why you know so little about Shaq.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:13 pm to
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You seen when Shaq was with Lebron in Cleveland they had to bench him in the 4th quarter in the playoffs against Dwight because he was getting killed on the pick and roll with Dwight and Hedo


Oh for fricks sake. You can't be this stupid. Shaq was 38 years old then. Howard was 24.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:19 pm to
Howard has much growing up to do


immature is a compliment to the guy


Shaq is a mogul and a HOF'er. DH should laugh this shite off till he wins some stuff on his own


and he really needs to grow up
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71865 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:23 pm to
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24? Is that your age? That would explain why you know so little about Shaq.


wut

I'm 24 and grew up watching Shaq.
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
9932 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:27 pm to
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Oh for fricks sake. You can't be this stupid. Shaq was 38 years old then. Howard was 24.


Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
11773 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:29 pm to
But Superman is a damn comic character, therefore he cant trademark that shite!
Posted by YoungJR24
Member since Jul 2007
1090 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:32 pm to
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24? Is that your age? That would explain why you know so little about Shaq.


No that was my jersey number in sports my whole life and I'm 28 but I'm sure I know more about Shaq than you think I do. I was a Orlando Magic fan and then followed Shaq over to L.A. and trust me at one time I was the biggest Shaq fan there was and yes Shaq was a great player. At the moment he's probably 5th all time at center behind Wilt,Kareem,Hakeem, and Russell. But the thing is Shaq tries to make it seem like he was this great skilled big man when he wasn't. Most of his points came in the paint. He had no jump shot at all. Hakeem was 10x the offensive player that Shaq was but Hakeem wasn't twice as big as everybody he played against so by the numbers they are pretty neck and neck.

That one guy argued with me saying Shaq wasn't as good defensively as Dwight because his career numbers put him so and so on the all time list. Well as I pointed out Dwight has not even played half the years Shaq did and he's projected to be ahead of Shaq in all defensive categories by the end of his career.

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