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re: The two best teams should play.... period

Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:20 am to
Posted by KT70
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
1272 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:20 am to
I agree. LSU and Bama are head and shoulders better than anyone else and should play for the NC. It is neither teams fault they are in the same division and should not be penalized for that.

Even though I believe LSU will beat Bama again I also realize Bama is the only team good enough to beat LSU and I think that is why some LSU fans are nervous about the rematch. If Bama fans were in our shoes they would feel the same way. Just think if Bama wins by 3 and wins the NC is that really fair? No, but who said anything in life is fair except maybe the Occupy Wallstreet group?
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 8:23 am
Posted by kappadelttau
Member since Sep 2011
339 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:22 am to
Posted by GoldRing
Warner Robins, GA.
Member since May 2011
855 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:31 am to
Nice going ESPN BCS poll. Alabama, and all who are still also trying to make our proud 2011 LSU football team a bunch of chumps. You guys have the Characteristics of intelligent people living a style of sophistication that is nothing more then a low down way of fixing the game as a means to steal. Nice going guys. We all now understand more clearly. You over looked one small detail however as you now genuflect to your ESPN fixed altar.
See you in the Super Dome New Orleans Louisiana.”He who has the last laugh, laughs best".

Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:34 am to
If that's the case, then why aren't they playing for the SEC Championship? Even with a play off system, it doesn't guarantee the two best teams will play. Live with it bro
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25887 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:45 am to
quote:

The two best teams should play.... period


in the past, I have said that you should have to be conf. champion to play, but

:kige:

However, there are many who would not concede that Bama is a better team than OSU, myself not included. If they beat OU, they have a gripe.

That said, if it is to be Bama, bring it on.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2390 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:47 am to
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we penalize Bama because they happen to play in the same division of the same conference as LSU? The two best teams should play.


Mischaracterization. Bama is not penalized by being denied a shot at the BCS. They had their opportunity and they lost.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21057 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:48 am to
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Do we penalize Bama because they happen to play in the same division of the same conference as LSU? The two best teams should play.


Hell yes, we punish Bama cause they play in the same conference.... Okla. State statistically looks better than Bama! You had your turn, you sound like a spoiled arse kid... get your once beaten arse in the back of the line!

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94655 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:50 am to
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It's an accepted "Fact" that LSU is the best team in the country. It only stands to reason that another team, with almost identical margins of victories against common oppenents, whose only loss was to LSU in a game in which they OUTGAINED LSU, missed 4 FG's, and lost in overtime would be the 2nd best team.



But if Bama wins the rematch, you're going to say that 2011 Bama is better than 2011 LSU - which will be arguable, at best. That is another unfair thing about all of this - if Bama wins, yeah BCS championship, but it shouldn't feel like they earned it - just got the shot by default. If Bama loses as second time - just might as well pack it in. That's a lot to risk for a marginal gain. Okie State would at least have the honor of being 1-0 against LSU, should they get into the game and beat us.

Food for thought.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215978 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:52 am to
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Forget the side-by-side comparisons, strength of schedule, better resumes, "they had their shot," didn't win their division, will play one less game, blah blah blah



But these are facts that cant be ignored.



quote:

LSU is the best team in the country. It only stands to reason that another team, with almost identical margins of victories against common oppenents, whose only loss was to LSU in a game in which they OUTGAINED LSU, missed 4 FG's, and lost in overtime would be the 2nd best team.



Bama was tied at the half with Ole MISS for chrits sake.




quote:

If Bama was in the Big 12, ACC, PAC12, Big10, Big East or any other conference they would be undefeated.



But they aren't.


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Do we penalize Bama because they happen to play in the same division of the same conference as LSU?


Yes cause they had their chance @ home against LSU and lost. FACT.. However, I WANT BAMA again, Kick their arse and shut you gumps up.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:55 am to
LSU IS the two best teams in the country. Our backups are better than Bama starters. GTFO. We are playing ourselves for the BCSNCG.
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
8177 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:56 am to
Okay.. the two best teams need to play.


Maybe they have and it's done and over. If you've already LOST to the best team, then you ain't it!
Posted by Tigernbr
Member since Oct 2011
9 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:00 am to
It is not a given that the Big 12 is inferior to the SEC this season. There are some really crappy teams in the SEC this season.

The goal of the BCSis not to put the two "best" teams in the championship game. The goal is to put BCS #1 and BCS #2 in the championship game. That's it. End of story.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:05 am to
You are the worst hypocrite. First you say forget the side by side comparisons then in the next paragraph give a side by side for "outgaining LSU blah blah blah".

Compare OSU's wins (current ranking of teams they beat) to Bama's....FACT. it is a bias getting you the nod. Will make your tears so much sweeter AGAIN!
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27052 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:17 am to
Bama had their chance. Let someone else have a shot.

Nov. 5 was pointless if Bama gets to play for the NC. Beating Moo State, Georgia Southern, and Auburn shouldn't "earn" you anything. Beating LSU at home would have.
Posted by thelsutigerfan
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2011
401 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:24 am to
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missed 4 FG's, and lost in overtime


Do you really think the second best team in the nation would miss not one not two not three but four field goals?
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3704 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:24 am to
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An unfortunately for you, people still aren't convinced you're really better than Bama. Bama outgained you, missed 4 FG's, made uncharacteristics bonehead mistakes, and lost in overtime. You didn't convince them. Wanna convince them? Beat Bama's arse with the NC on the line. But don't whine about having to play them again.


Well shite!!! Seems like even if LSU beats Bama again there are still going to be a bunch of idiots that think Bama is a better team. This is why I do not believe there should be a rematch . . . LSU has nothing to gain from beating Bama again. All it would do is generate more bullshite like this thread since Bama fans cannot accept that they got beat. All those misques in the 11/5 game are part of the game and cannot be discounted.

Les Miles took his medicine for his poor clock management in the past. It is only fair that Saban take his medicine for poor decisions regarding field position vs. long field goal attempts.
Posted by TigersInExile
OhioTiger
Member since Nov 2008
901 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:31 am to
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The real question I'd like you to answer: Is Alabama the 2nd best team in the country? That, truly truly, is all that matters.

Actually, methinks not ... at least according to the BCS. When the two best teams are from the same division and conference, I'm not sure it matters under the letter of the BCS "law", the way it's written.

Apparently, the BCS intended for the two best different conference teams to play, go figure.

I don't give a damn who we play January 9th, LSU will bring it.

Posted by scubafeet
baton rouge, la
Member since Feb 2004
14285 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:58 am to
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Bama outgained you, missed 4 FG's, made uncharacteristics bonehead mistakes


Just off the top, would this qualify as uncharacteristic mistakes to you? You act like LSU played its best game of the year and Bama played its crappiest! We used to hear that Les was winning with Saban's recruits, now you are bitching because you lost because of ONE OF HIS RECRUITS (the kicker). Fact is, Les has a winning record against Saban with Sabans players, with his own players, etc. As much whining as we hear, I hope yall tear down that Garden Nome you call a statue when Les pounds his arse AGAIN!!

Jarrett Lee's just 2nd interception of the season; first since Week 3 vs Mississippi State. LSU hadn't turned the ball over in any of its previous 5 games. The Mississippi State game was also the last time LSU had a turnover of any kind. LSU entered the game with only 3 turnovers all season, fewest in the country.
Posted by German Shepard
Berlin, Germany
Member since Jan 2009
1063 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:03 am to
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missed 4 FG's



One was blocked buddy and most of the others should have been punts. Thank the LSU defense and crappy decision making by Saban for that.
Posted by XLIVsaints
Member since Mar 2010
1274 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:04 am to
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genro


shut up gump...i hope they make yall play boise state in the shite bowl
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