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re: The sky isn't falling--UF is proof

Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
3348 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:27 pm to
So, somehow, with this recruiting class coming in...........

ESPN Recruiting Class Ratings (LSU #2)

..........LSU is poised to fall off the map like Nebraska?
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33252 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

So, somehow, with this recruiting class coming in...........

ESPN Recruiting Class Ratings (LSU #2)

..........LSU is poised to fall off the map like Nebraska?
They gotta be coached up first.
Posted by Bucky Goldstein
Metairie,La.
Member since Oct 2005
1985 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 4:05 pm to
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UF lost a good bit more than we did though, and they didn't have offensive questions that next year. We do.
yes 3 more
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 1:00 am to
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I could be wrong but I just don't see Lee winning the Heisman this year.


He is the leading scorer for the opposition in the SEC.
Posted by Purple Tiger
Member since Nov 2006
1699 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 2:23 am to
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We are stacked on defense, and have no obvious hope for the future at QB.

Lee will develop into a good QB. You will always be an Internet Queen!
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8631 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 5:19 am to
Trouble is that people are confusing "highly recruited and hyped" with "game experience and actual playing ability."

Our defense may be "stacked" but they are inexperienced as evidenced by the consistent pattern of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Our QB is a redshirt freshman that until this year was not going to play AT ALL for at least another year, maybe 2. Instead of having a guy that had been in the system, had played a decent amount, etc, we have a guy who is jittery, has no confidence, no timing with his receivers, etc...in other words, he looks like a freshman playing QB.

I'll take the lumps if it means that we grow from it next year. Remember, y'all...even Saban had his rebuilding years (see 2002 and 2004).
Posted by TigerNala
Birmingham
Member since Jan 2007
1049 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 5:44 am to
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Note. UF lost 9 starters from their defense after the NC.

We did not.


Lets all agree... LSUtigahs28 is right and LSU should consider forfieting the remainder of this year and next year. He is right there is nothing positive for the future. Lets pack it in.
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
3348 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 10:29 am to
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Our QB is a redshirt freshman that until this year was not going to play AT ALL for at least another year, maybe 2. Instead of having a guy that had been in the system, had played a decent amount, etc, we have a guy who is jittery, has no confidence, no timing with his receivers, etc...in other words, he looks like a freshman playing QB.

I'll take the lumps if it means that we grow from it next year


I agree. If "taking our lumps" means going 9-3 with a freshman qb, I'll take that every time.
Posted by augustbengal
shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
1324 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 10:43 am to
I'm sorry, is the season over? Come on people-minus Florida, our other 2 losses were very winnable games at several points...We have lost all of our games by making the worst possible mistakes you can make giving opposing teams defenses points! It's not a matter of we are being dominated at the line, or just can't be on the same field...Get a grip, this is a little bit of a rebuilding year...If we hang on and win the rest-that is what everybody thought we would do, or some even said maybe 4 losses...A year like this makes the team hungry for next year...We have talent and coaches that aren't sitting there going "oh well, I guess this is how it's going to be." BS, there angry and doing everything they can to fix it...Can't change QB situation overnite-Lee wasn't supposed to start this year, remember?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 12:06 pm to
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We might as well get ready for a re-run of the Hallman years.


Not Hallman, but maybe DiNardo if something isn't done about the DC situation.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6299 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 12:09 pm to
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UF lost a good bit more than we did though, and they didn't have offensive questions that next year. We do.
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Are you kidding? They had no running game. A complete bust.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 12:19 pm to
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this is a little bit of a rebuilding year...


But what, exactly, are we building?

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A year like this makes the team hungry for next year...


Lack of hunger wasn't the problem this year. Lack of coaching and speed on defense and inexperience at QB were the problems. And none of that will change next year except the last one.

quote:

If we hang on and win the rest


Just the fact that we're talking about "hanging on" and running the table against Troy, Ole Miss and Arkie, just to finish at a weak 9-3 (considering the schedule) should tell you there's a problem.

quote:

We have talent and coaches that aren't sitting there going "oh well, I guess this is how it's going to be."


Well, they're certainly SAYING it, so I don't know what you mean by "going", but the coaches have given zero indication that they will make significant changes.

quote:

there angry and doing everything they can to fix it...


So am I. The problem is that what I "can" isn't very much. To an obviously lesser extent, our defensive coaches have the same problem.

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Can't change QB situation overnite-Lee wasn't supposed to start this year, remember?


He and Hatch had all spring and offseason, and honestly they haven't done that poorly. The only game I blame on QB play was against one of the best defensive coaches in the country who specializes in confusing QBs. With less talent at his disposal last year, Saban got three picks off Matt Flynn too.

quote:

UF is proof


2007-08 UF has absolutely nothing to do with 2008-09 LSU. They have so much better talent and more speed than we do, not to mention drastically better coaching on defense, that any comparison of the two teams is meaningless.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 12:25 pm to
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somehow, with this recruiting class coming in...........

ESPN Recruiting Class Ratings (LSU #2)

..........LSU is poised to fall off the map like Nebraska?


It's pretty obvious that our recruiting classes have been overrated for the past several years. Where's the speed on our roster that you see on Florida's? Where are the big, fast linebackers who knock the shite out of people that you see on other SEC teams' rosters? Where is the superstud QB that other big time programs seem to churn out every year?

Some recruiting services rank players high based on whether certain schools are recruiting them. Of course, this in turn means those schools automatically get highly rated classes because the fact that they are recruiting someone improves his ranking. I think we are one of those schools.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46051 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 12:29 pm to
get em Nuts!
Posted by augustbengal
shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
1324 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 2:05 pm to
Nust4LSU, I believe you are nuts!!!What in the hell do you expect us to do every year?? What are we rebuilding? How about the QB position for starts-Yes they had all spring, so did everybody else in the nation...Fact is Periloux was suppossed to be our starting QB, and Lee and Hatch were always going to be back-ups...I think another area of "rebuilding" is the defense minus the D-line, and also the team leadership-obviously this is a work in progress...Since you are so damn negative about the entire team and outcome-thank heavens your not on the team. You seem to be one of the dillusional fans that probably never played a down of College or even HS football-You probably think that you want us to win games more than our players and coaches. Well guess what-you ain't the one who shows up at 6:00 am Monday after a Saturday night game to go over film and run "correction drills" are you? Quit be so damn negative. Do you support the team or just point out the negative?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83068 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 2:08 pm to
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Two years ago Florida won the NC, and the next year their QB won the Heisman but the teams lost three SEC games and a bowl game against a shitty Michigan team. Look at what UF is doing this year. We're fine.


In 2002, LSU lost games once Mauck went down due to poor QB play, in spite of great talent at the other positions.

In 2004 LSU again was not very good due to poor QB play which limited the offense, in spite of great talent at the other positions.

Sky is not falling. QB play is important.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83068 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 2:09 pm to
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UF lost a good bit more than we did though, and they didn't have offensive questions that next year. We do.


But Florida could mask problems with a Heisman QB.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83068 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 2:11 pm to
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It's pretty obvious that our recruiting classes have been overrated for the past several years. Where's the speed on our roster that you see on Florida's? Where are the big, fast linebackers who knock the shite out of people that you see on other SEC teams' rosters? Where is the superstud QB that other big time programs seem to churn out every year?


I dunno, we should ask Miami, ND, Ohio State, and the 20 or so other teams LSU beat the last several years where all the speed went.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83068 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 2:13 pm to
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I agree. If "taking our lumps" means going 9-3 with a freshman qb, I'll take that every time.


Unfortunately, I expect LSU will be taking the same lumps next year with JJ or Sheperd at QB. Another year wasted on a new QB.
Posted by G8TRGRT
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
774 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 2:19 pm to
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It's pretty obvious that our recruiting classes have been overrated for the past several years. Where's the speed on our roster that you see on Florida's? Where are the big, fast linebackers who knock the shite out of people that you see on other SEC teams' rosters? Where is the superstud QB that other big time programs seem to churn out every year?

Some recruiting services rank players high based on whether certain schools are recruiting them. Of course, this in turn means those schools automatically get highly rated classes because the fact that they are recruiting someone improves his ranking. I think we are one of those schools.
Ding Ding Ding!!! We have a WINNER!
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