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re: the size differential in the trenches.

Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13370 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:19 pm to
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bison, do you think high temps and humidity will affect your team?



Closed roof, so no. If they open the roof, it will be because temps are lower.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:22 pm to
Freak will end up being better than Nevis. Maybe not right off the bat but it is pretty telling when a Freshman comes in and can start...

He did have the sack record in HS. I'm more impressed at how big Freak is and can still retain his quickness.

We're bigger in the middle than we were last year and Downs will be in the rotation. He is a pretty good DT when he isn't hurt. Should be harder to run at LSU up the middle but no telling what inconsistencies a Freshman will have there.

I wish Freak/Brockers would stop mauling our interior line in practices...someone needs to sit his arse.
This post was edited on 8/28/11 at 12:24 pm
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
15048 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:24 pm to
I think that pic is them standing amongst 10 year olds, so its hard to really judge. They look like thy have some size, and frankly I'm tire of your never ending attempt to get us to respect your team. I already respect them, and I'm looking forward to the arse pounding (nohomo) wergoing to put on them in a week. Come back and eat your crow when its over.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6896 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Freak will end up being better than Nevis. Maybe not right off the bat but it is pretty telling when a Freshman comes in and can start...

He did have the sack record in HS. I'm more impressed at how big Freak is and can still retain his quickness.

We're bigger in the middle than we were last year and Downs will be in the rotation. He is a pretty good DT when he isn't hurt. Should be harder to run at LSU up the middle but not telling what inconsistencies a Freshman will have there.

I wish Freak/Brockers would stop mauling our interior line in practices...someone needs to sit his arse.




i sure hope so. everyone has high hopes for him, im just waiting to see it
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:26 pm to
When was the last True Freshman to start at LSU? It took Peterson the middle of the season before he got the start.
Posted by kuntrykingpin318
318
Member since Aug 2011
547 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

79, 60 and 71 are Asper, Clanton and Benyard. You think their weights look overinflated Nico?

looks like chump to kkp318
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13370 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:28 pm to
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I think that pic is them standing amongst 10 year olds, so its hard to really judge. They look like thy have some size, and frankly I'm tire of your never ending attempt to get us to respect your team. I already respect them, and I'm looking forward to the arse pounding (nohomo) wergoing to put on them in a week. Come back and eat your crow when its over.


Nico, I am not trying to get you to respect the team. People just regurgitate memes without looking at the evidence. Oregon is a lot bigger in the trenches than last year. We started two 270 pound DTs but we lost them to graduation. Now people are assuming we are inexperienced and light.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13370 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:32 pm to
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looks like chump to kkp318


They are olinemen, dude.

Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
4953 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

People just regurgitate memes without looking at the evidence.


And they will continue to do so, hence you wasting your time with a discussion like this. What this fanbase brings in passion and enthusiasm, it really lacks in football knowledge, especially when it comes to scouting an opponent. they'll believe what they want, which is fine.

Hell, someone started a thread yesterday with highlights of a qb we just signed, and the majority of the posters who responded had never seen the guy before.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79205 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Closed roof


break for the Ducks IMO...
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13370 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:36 pm to
I get that it's an effort in futility. However, it was interesting to do the exercise and it really didn't take much time.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:37 pm to
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Auburn last year was much bigger than LSU this year.


DE: Nosa Eguae (258)/Dee Ford (240)
DT: Mike Blanc(297)/Zach Clayton (296)
DT: Nick Fairly(298)/Jamar Travis (288)
DE: Antoine Carter(256)/Michael Goggans (261)

Avg: 274.25

LT: Lee Ziemba (319)/AJ Greene (291)
LG: Byron Isom (302)/Jared Cooper (300)
C: Ryan Pugh (297)/Blake Burgess (278)
RG: Mike Berry (316)/John Sullen (312)
RT: Roszell Gayden (315)/Brandon Moseley (299)

Avg: 302.9


LSU D Avg: 274.375
LSU O Avg: 314

I'm sorry...who was much bigger than who?

AU 2010 2 Deep

AU 2010 Roster
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60620 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:38 pm to
ONCE AGAIN>>>

you compare our OL to your OL, and our DL to your DL.

Our OL outweighs your DL (We play O v D around here) by around 37 lbs. Yours outweighs our D by 26.

We are a bit bigger.

But it is a dumb, meaningless debate. I am just tired of seeing all opponents of ours making matchup predictions off of like units...not the units they will be facing on the field.
Posted by Quack
Oregon
Member since Aug 2011
151 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:38 pm to
The reasonable people on this board are over ran by the homers, it don't matter what facts u put on here bison, the honks will dis credit them and since Lsu is in the sec, they will say we are out weighed by 30+ pounds, we don't have a chance to win, he'll why even show up??? they don't live in reality!
Its to bad the more knowlegable and reasonable Lsu fans have to deal with the homers that see thru purple and yellow shades, and talk out their asses!!
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13370 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:39 pm to
That is why I said the size differential is 10.25 which is 37-26.75.
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
15048 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:40 pm to
I love how some of our superior posters think if they give the other team credit, they are knowledgeable football analysts. I haven't been running with these "memes", but I do think we win both lines of scrimmage. If that's me being a homer, then by dammit, I guess I'm a Homer.
Posted by OryGunDucks
Cascadia
Member since Aug 2011
847 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

If we lose, it'll be because of the distractions surrounding the team right now


The excuses are already rolling out.

Oregon has two starters out as well so no excuses.

Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13370 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

DE: Nosa Eguae (258)/Dee Ford (240)
DT: Mike Blanc(297)/Zach Clayton (296)
DT: Nick Fairly(298)/Jamar Travis (288)
DE: Antoine Carter(256)/Michael Goggans (261)


I think the big difference here is that Blanc, Fairly, Clayton, and Goggans were all senior or on their way to the NFL (I can't remember if Fairly was a junior but the other three were seniors).

Also, the linebacking corp was bigger and the use a 4-3 base package whereas LSU runs more 4-2-5 with a 240 pound end.
This post was edited on 8/28/11 at 12:44 pm
Posted by TigerCorp
Member since Jun 2009
1058 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:41 pm to
Was about to post the same thing...I knew AU wasn't bigger w/o looking it up.

OU fan is obviously worried about LSU doing same thing to them AU did...and that's a valid worry.

LSU's D in 2011 better than AU 2010.

With exception of possibly Hatcher, I see 10 guys on our D that will play in NFL.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

I think the big different here is that Blanc, Fairly, Clayton, and Goggans were all senior or on their way to the NFL.


I will give you that. AU last year did have more experience than our D this year, but our D is still bigger, especially in the middle (a lot of AUs weight comes from their big DEs).
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