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re: The reality is Joe and King have painted themselves in a corner....

Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:03 am to
Posted by evantiger
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:03 am to
Get off the Tiger Rant xiv (Joe Alleva), you're not welcome here.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:05 am to
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You either fire him or roll with it.
They might be firing him.
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From who?
The NCAA. Wade wouldn’t be suspended if not.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20283 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:05 am to
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They tried looking into the matter, but Wade didn’t cooperate. Nothing about this decision was rash at all.


I don't think it's as black and white as you paint it. If Alleva was any real kind of AD, he'd have called Wade like the friend he's supposed to be. It's not always business. Instead I'm sure it was a gestapo type interrogation he and F were after and Wade's lawyer wasn't going to send his client into the firing line.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:05 am to
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Link??? I must have missed the NCAA making a ruling Mr. Judge and Jury.
He wasn’t suspended for an ncaa ruling. He was suspended for not reporting to work when told.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:07 am to
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If Alleva was any real kind of AD, he'd have called Wade like the friend he's supposed to be


C'mon man..

You don't think Alleva and Wade have discussed this repeatedly? Apparently the administration doesn't feel Wade has been honest.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:07 am to
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If Alleva was any real kind of AD, he'd have called Wade like the friend he's supposed to be.
a) “friend” has nothing to do with anything
b) he did call Wade and asked him to explain himself
c) Alleva didn’t suspend him
Posted by MakeMoney
Guck Foodell
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:12 am to
The fact that anyone can defend Alleva and Alexander is unbelievable. These two are spineless vaginas who came the second there is any negative publicity. frick these two. Seriously
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:16 am to
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The fact that anyone can defend Alleva and Alexander is unbelievable.
They gave Wade a chance to explain himself, and Wade chose not to do so. There was really no other way to go. Wade can’t coach until he convinces his employer that it won’t be a problem.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:17 am to
Do you think Alleva is a good AD outside of all of this?
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:17 am to
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They were well aware that Wade could not/would not talk to them at this point in them regarding this matter.
That’s Wade’s problem, not LSU’s. If a legal matter keeps you from doing your job, maybe you shouldn’t have the job.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:17 am to
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The fact that anyone can defend Alleva and Alexander is unbelievable.


There's no need to defend them in this case. Wade made his decision.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:18 am to
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Do you think Alleva is a good AD outside of all of this?
Not what we’re talking about, and Alleva didn’t suspend anyone. Alleva has turned into a giant red herring here.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278263 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:25 am to
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Just saying....they should have made a statement that they are looking into the matter, not make the rash decision.



What do you think they are doing

Wade is suspended indefinitely, not fired.
Posted by jtt1225
Member since Nov 2005
149 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:28 am to
Wade is the one in the corner. He has been caught on tape negotiating with a thug pushing recruits. While not proven guilty of anything yet, he refuses to discuss this with his boss.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14167 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:57 am to
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Just saying....they should have made a statement that they are looking into the matter, not make the rash decision. Now, they can't win...they have painted themselves in a corner. They had better hope their accusations are correct, if so, good decision. If they are wrong, how does Wade ever trust them again. But, for now, we just don't know.


Well said. It's a lose/lose situation now. I don't see how Wade would want to continue working for an administration that's so quick to throw him under the bus. He may not quit right away, but you can bet that he will tell his agent to find him a job elsewhere. In the end. Alleva and KIng will do whatever makes them look the best.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123839 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:59 am to
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This assumes King and Alleva aren’t shite bags who only care about their own image. That’s a terrible assumption.
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6628 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:24 am to
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Wade has more leverage/power than this board or the media realize.

All those coaches in the "brotherhood" who supposedly hate him are not sleeping well these days and probably won't for some time.

If Wade decides to sing, it's all over for all the bluebloods. Not just LSU. Perhaps even the NCAA wouldn't survive it if enough is exposed.

If Wade goes down, they all go down.





This is the best perspective I've read so far. The "sleazy" middlemen allegedly shopping recruits have no market power if there aren't multiple coaches/programs to call on.

If they decide to take down LSU, the NCAA/ESPN/March Madness basketball cash cow would crumble when all of the dust settles on the estimated 50+ coaches and programs involved.

The greed built into the system wouldn't have it.

What bothers me the most is LSU/Alleva/King have put us out there as willing to fall on the sword first.

Incredibly misguided and asinine!
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4444 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:25 am to
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quote: They were well aware that Wade could not/would not talk to them at this point in them regarding this matter. That’s Wade’s problem, not LSU’s. If a legal matter keeps you from doing your job, maybe you shouldn’t have the job


I agree with your statement on face value. However, not being able to discuss a federal court case against someone else, does not keep Wade from coaching. J&F knew exactly what was going on, and are using this as a convenient excuse to distance themselves from Wade while things happen.

These two absolute clowns are worried about optics of reporters. Newsflash: reporters do not decide guilt of innocence. Wait for evidence is what I think they should have done. If J&F think that these suspensions will have any positive affect IF the ncaa does any sort of actual investigation, is foolish. Besides, when is the last time the ncaa did something in a timely fashion? IF the ncaa wants to dig up dead bodies, it will be years from now.

Effectively, what these suspensions show is a willingness to accept guilt without proof, and jump on the hand grenade for all of the people involved here.
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