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re: The Rant's opinion on not removing hats for the National Anthem
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:55 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:55 am to Mike da Tigah
+1000
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:55 am to Katy Tiger
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. I am however advising you that if you choose to rub your views in peoples' faces that you shouldn't be surprised when someone who lost a brother in Iraq or a dad in Vietnam decides to take serious issue with you.
You realize that YOU would be the one rubbing your view in someone's face for them wearing a cap during a game?
The irony in this thread is that most of you are the ones who are complaining about the country becoming socialist, how we're losing our civil liberties, etc (fwiw I lean republican), yet you can't grasp the concept that people have the right to do what they want, as long as it doesn't infringe upon others.
If the national fricking ice cream was chocolate and I liked vanilla better, would that make me un-American?
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:55 am to Mike da Tigah
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Because people in the military don't value such things as showing respect for the flag and their country.
I'm a veteran and I don't care one single iota if someone removes their hat or not.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:56 am to montiger
quote:Yep, or using words like "honor" and "respect" or any other vague words in an attempt to demean or make someone feel bad. It's pretty pathetic that I haven't seen anyone answer exactly why covering one's head is a form of disrespect.
Ah, name calling, the last defense of someone who's lost an argument...
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:56 am to bconne1
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is it still mandatory to remove them or am I clinging to some old-school shite my pops taught me?
It's infact a U.S. law that headdress be removed by men during the National Anthem other than for those in uniform.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:56 am to montiger
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Does having a relative that died in a war make your opinion more valid?
You are proving to be the jerk I think you are
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:57 am to Mike da Tigah
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You've told me all I need to know about yourself in your desire to keep your hat on. Nothing else matters at this point.
Then we will agree to disagree. May you be blessed in your life. I sincerely hope that someone who leaves their hat on during the national anthem saves you or a member of your family's life one day, then you will understand how truly stupid this statement is. There are plenty of things in MY life that are more important than the hat/anthem issue. God bless you.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:57 am to Mike da Tigah
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but do you really honestly think this is in good taste or shows respect for people that your hat is more important?
no, I always wear a plain Navy suit that I got from KMart because I know my dead friend would be offended if I wore the one I paid 3 grand for at Nordstroms...
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:57 am to Mulat
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You are proving to be the jerk I think you are
Answer the question.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:58 am to WikiTiger
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The problem comes when people advocate
I don't see anything wrong with advocating.
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(and sometimes actually do) forcibly removing someones hat. That is unacceptable and should be grounds for battery.
Agreed.
Bottom line, you have every right to dissent and not remove your hat. I have every right to opine that you (not you in particular, but one who doesn't remove his hat) are a disrespectful, unpatriotic, selfish, rabblerousers.
Not rocket science.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:58 am to Lonnie4LSU
Can one "dissenter" please answer the post about it being law? I would love to hear you argue a U.S. Code!!!!
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:59 am to TigerBait69
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how is every person ignoring the person that posted the actual U.S. Code stating the LAW about removing your hat?!?!?!
Because it's been ruled unenforcible by the US Supreme Court.
That pesky first amendment got in the way.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:59 am to WikiTiger
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The problem comes when people advocate (and sometimes actually do) forcibly removing someones hat. That is unacceptable and should be grounds for battery.
Of course they have a right to protest. I'm just wondering what and why they would be doing it. If they aren't b/c they are just dumb that's different.
I'm not taking it off for them but I'm gonna want an answer as to why they are protesting
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:59 am to Festus
Selfish? Everyone is selfish.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 12:00 pm to WikiTiger
Just because it is unenforcable, does not mean it has been repealed, smart guy.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 12:00 pm to TigerBait69
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Can one "dissenter" please answer the post about it being law? I would love to hear you argue a U.S. Code!!!!
From a previous post:
"all other persons present SHOULD face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, SHOULD remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart"
It is clearly not mandatory to remove a hat during the national anthem. There's your answer
Posted on 11/21/10 at 12:00 pm to TigerFlash
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can you tell me why any military personell, police or even the color gaurd for that matter dont remove their hat's during the National Anthem?
Because according to tradition, and now the Flag Code, persons in uniform do not remove their hats, but leave them on and render a military style hand salute.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 12:00 pm to TigerBait69
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Can one "dissenter" please answer the post about it being law? I would love to hear you argue a U.S. Code!!!!
quote:
all other persons present SHOULD face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, SHOULD remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
Should does not mean you must.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 12:02 pm to OU812
Good arguement, enjoy being a communist then.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 12:02 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Selfish? Everyone is selfish.
To a certain extent, yes. But there are different levels of selfishness. And, selfish was only one of the descriptive words used.
I should have put more emphasis on rabblerouser. lol
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