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re: The official Doughty to 3rd thread

Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:52 am to
Posted by ArcticTiger
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:52 am to
Truth! Thank You!
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:01 am to
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Sorry. The only infield position even adequately defended is 1st Base. Doughty, Thompson, Merrifield, and Berry all have inferior arms, and certainly not SEC caliber. None of them can field ground balls. Berry’s failure to hit the cut off twice gave up two runs. The hitting coach has done nothing but further individualize what was supposed to be a team. Crews stance is wide and his swing begins behind his head. He can’t catch up to a mediocre fast ball. None of them can hit a left hander. None of them can hit a curve. The pitching coach is much improved. He is trying everyone. When the season is late, we won’t run out of experienced pitchers as we have the last ten years. Our hitting is unplanned. “Just hit fastballs boy! But don’t work their starting pitcher. Don’t work the pitch count. After all, we don’t want to get into their relief pitching. We want all of their starting pitchers to go 9 innings, right?” And our lead off hitter, never having seen their starting pitcher in his entire life, swings at the first pitch of the game. This is an example of superior coaching? It’s certainly not an example of teamwork! It is an example of selfish arrogance. A game lead off hitter should look at pitches until strike 2, to tell his team mates about the movement on the fastball and break on the curve. LSU hitters don’t talk to any teammates like it’s a secret. Right now, without some significant changes, this team better look forward to a lot of left handers, the worst defense in the SEC, and the first failure to make the SEC Tournament. I am surprised at the quality of the starters, but the relief pitchers need to get in shape. It’s obvious the pitchers haven’t been running. It’s also obvious the pitching coach doesn’t believe in pitchers running by his svelt figure. But even if they do run, they can’t win with that hapless defense.


Wow. Not sure what else to say to this.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:57 am to
Doughty to 3rd, Bianco or Merrifield at 2nd

Give Thompson a little more time since he was injured but start thinking about Cranford to SS.

Gio to center, Crews to right

Berry/Jobert can alternate at DH, ride the hot bat
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:04 am
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:03 am to
Berry will never be alternating with anyone. He will be playing every game unless injured. Whether it is at a position or DH is yet to be determined.

If Jobert will be alternating with anyone it will be Gio. Jobert not seeing any playing time in the field must mean he hasn't looked great defensively in practice and scrimmages.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:06 am to
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Berry will never be alternating with anyone.


He shouldn’t be a lock for every lineup; the guy’s not a complete player and the number one overall talk is a joke.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:08 am to
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the number one overall talk is a joke.


What publications have said he's a 1/1 candidate?
Posted by BayTiger13
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:09 am to
Complete player, no. Complete hitter, yes. If he is not in the field he will be at DH. Like I said, unless injured he will be in the lineup every game. Same as Crews and Doughty.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:09 am to
Whichever one the announcers this weekend referenced a hundred times.

Top pick out of college, whatever. I don’t pay attention to HS guys.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:13 am to
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Whichever one the announcers this weekend referenced a hundred times.


I was in the stadium. I didn't hear the announcers.

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Top pick out of college, whatever. I don’t pay attention to HS guys.



So you don't know the subject matter but complain about it even though what you're actually complaining about is your own lack of understanding?

No one is considering him a 1/1 candidate. One publication, one, has him listed as the top college guy on the board. And it's not a prospect forward publication. Even still, if he actually were the top college guy on the board, that would put him at 3 at the very highest.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:14 am
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:15 am to
MLB top 100 draft prospects have him as the first college prospect on their list and 4th overall. However, that was before the season started. They haven't updated since. I would imagine he fell slightly but is still possible top 10 definite top 20 pick in the draft. Especially with the universal DH in MLB now.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
15577 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:16 am to
… the TV guys not the PA announcer

And none of that changes my points that this guy is nowhere near the best draft-eligible player in CBB.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2413 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:25 am to
I won't argue that he will be the first college player taken because I do not think he will be. However, saying "nowhere near" is just a dumb thing to say. He will be one of the top 5 college picks come draft time.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:29 am to
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He will be one of the top 5 college picks come draft time.


People who have never heard of Keston Hiura, Andrew Vaughn, and Spencer Torkelson are going to be mad at you for saying that. HE NEEDS TO PROVE HE CAN PLAY DEFENSE!
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:16 am to
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He will be one of the top 5 college picks come draft time.


I don’t even see this. That’s putting him in Bregman territory and Berry isn’t anywhere close as a complete baseball player.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:19 am to
He’s a complete hitter. You’re putting way to much emphasis on his defense when it was already known that it doesn’t really matter for him. I don’t think you appreciate how good of a hitter he is.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:26 am to
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You’re putting way to much emphasis on his defense when it was already known that it doesn’t really matter for him.


I also think people are underestimating the confidence that an org will have in being able to correct certain defensive shortcomings.

Bad routes, not knowing where to throw the ball, even simple catching and throwing. All can be improved with reps. And they have those in abundance in pro ball.

The time constraints and must win aspects of college baseball aren't always conducive to in season development/fixing of issues. As long as there is a glimpse that he can do something, he will get the chance in pro ball to do it.

I think he'll still be tried at 3rd in pro ball, just to make sure he absolutely can't do it.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2413 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:34 am to
Agree with all of that and then on top of it put in the universal DH and he is a legit switch hitter.
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