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re: The myth of the great recruiting classes of the past

Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:30 am to
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watched the games’....I watched our QB run for his life on almost every pass play....our line was shite....especially the tackles.... 

How many of our tackles play nfl ball




i just posted our 2015 sack %.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:30 am to
Those stats are misleading because those linemen were recruiting high at their positions but the sucked dog shite at tackle....

I watched the games....

Btw coach O’s first year as recruiting coordinator started after the recruiting cycle was over....You can’t use his hire date and say he was responsible for that previous class...
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11291 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:33 am to
I wasn’t commenting on O being recruiting coordinator, so you’re responding to someone else.

My point is O trying to blame Miles for “lack of talent/depth” that didn’t exist until O lost to inferior teams is so obviously a preemptive excuse for failure that it’s pathetic.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:33 am to
The sack percentage was helped by a qb that was smart enough to throw it away....how about you show a three and out percentage too for that year
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:34 am to
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The sack percentage was helped by a qb that was smart enough to throw it away....how about you show a three and out percentage too for that year





i just posted that we finished above bama, ohio state, and fsu in offensive yards per game and offensive yards per game.
try to keep up

Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:37 am to
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Btw coach O’s first year as recruiting coordinator started after the recruiting cycle was over....You can’t use his hire date and say he was responsible for that previous class...


so then does O not get any credit for recruiting Arden Key?

this is great. O supporters have talked themselves into a corner to the point that O can't even get credit for the good things that he's done.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:37 am to
Dude I knew our o line sucked well before O was on the staff....

This has been a slow downward spiral that was finally realized last year....

And it certainly didn’t help that those useless dropouts stepped out on LSU when we needed them most’
I don’t blame O

I blame the players for the losses at miss st and Troy
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:37 am to
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The sack percentage was helped by a qb that was smart enough to throw it away....how about you show a three and out percentage too for that year







you think your untrained eye watching a tv broadcast outweighs people paid to evaluate olien play that watch all 22 film?

wow.
youre sitting here saying your 3.5 hour tvs broadcast veiwing ( that doesnt even focus on line play)is better than someone who spends their day watching all 22 film. for fricks sake.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11291 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:39 am to
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I don’t blame O I blame the players for the losses at miss st and Troy


Of course you do.
O supporters always blame the players, previous coach, OC, and anyone else but him for his failures.

So who do you blame for him bringing in the worst recruiting class since 2002 this year?
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 9:41 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:40 am to
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You just proved Rick’s point. I’ll take the stats and experts’ opinions over your analysis.



exactly.


he is essentially saying


My untrained eye watching a broadcast that doesnt focus on the oline and nothing else > actual stats, all sec selections, and the opinions of trained people that watch all 22 film that can be focused on position groups.

its madness
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:40 am to
Yes. I do. My untrained eye saw our linemen whiff on blocks....get man handled.....our pass protection was deplorable....they acted like they had no clue

We only ran on weak teams without the depth and size of our line....

Our size was our only advantage...

Skill and know how....not so much

Fire the evaluators. They suck...way overpaid....
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 9:43 am
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17745 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:44 am to
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If you really think O ran them off....you’re as dumb as a box of rocks...that’s just code for they were loyal to Les...and were not going to do anything to help O...


They didn't leave until after Coach O was named full time head coach.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:45 am to
For O’s sake....i hope he fired the evaluators of talent under Miles......

They were dog shite in my opinion
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
15855 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:46 am to
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Yet somehow Orgeron and staff managed to win 9 games and should have won the bowl game.


9 games? 7 of those 9 were against teams that finished .500 or below. Of the remaining 6 games aganst teams that finished with winning records, LSU posted a 2-4 record. The 2 wins came against teams with 10 combined losses on the season.

For the year, LSU had one good win, 2 very bad losses and a bunch of meh. All of this with 247’s 6th most talented team.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:46 am to
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Yes. I do. My untrained eye saw our whiff on blocks....get man handled.....our pass protection was deplorable 


our sack % numbers dispell that opinion. do you not understand what a sack % is? its the % of times a qb is sacked when dropping back for a pass.
your opinion DOES NOT OUTWEIGH IT.
quote:

We only ran on weak teams without the depth and size of our line.... 



who are these offenses that play better against better defenses?

are you familiar with the sport?
quote:

Skill and know how....not so much


for all miles' faults he was a very good fundamentals coach for the oline.
he was a p5 oline coach for 12 years at 2 different programs.
quote:

Fire the evaluators. They suck...way overpaid....

you do realize that im actually posting FACTS(STATS) that also prove the evaluators right, right?

My stance is supported by

facts
opinions of trained talent evaluators


Your stance is supported by

your untrained eye while watching a tv broadcast that never focuses on the oline


Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:48 am to
Yes. Which means they didn’t want to play for O.....

The first game when it was announced that half the team was not playing for undisclosed reasons

I wouldn’t put it passed those losers if they all smoked pot the week before so they’d fail the drug test on purpose to Sabatoge O

LSU doesn’t need players like that....good riddance
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:49 am to
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Which means they didn’t want to play for O..... 




holy shite.


ok, i now realize what im dealing with.


Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:50 am to
I don’t blame O for that....

The players who stepped out on O had an agenda.....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:51 am to
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For O’s sake....i hope he fired the evaluators of talent under Miles...... 

They were dog shite in my opinion



did Miles underachieve at lsu?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:51 am to
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For O’s sake....i hope he fired the evaluators of talent under Miles...... They were dog shite in my opinion


Just to be clear you think the evaluators for the program with the most former players in the NFL were “dog shite” correct?
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