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re: The most accurate thing ever said by Saban, "LSU fans have catastrophe syndrome."

Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:16 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:16 am to
Give it up dude. JaMarcus wasn’t good enough to be the #1 pick in 2005
Players develops. He wasn’t that good. If he was he could have gone to the draft in 2005.

Neither was Tyson Jackson in 2005. He wasn’t playing behind a lesser talent he was playing behind the THEN better player.

Give it up. You can say the 2003 team has 2 NC winning QBs and a #1 overall pick on it and be 100% correct but that doesn’t mean Russell and Flynn had anything to do with that team.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66572 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:20 am to
Preseason rankings are 100% subjective so which is what makes them so useless.

They are more wrong than right almost always.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:21 am to
Ogeron has 20 games under his belt at LSU, 12 as the full time HC. So yes context is important depending on what you’re talking about. There’s context surrounding the Ole Miss situation as there is at LSU plus you have the length of time and what’s transpired and changed since as possibly important context. O hasn’t proven anything yet, he won 9 games with a weak schedule. He’s had a bad loss and a big win, there are rumors about him and a coordinator that if are true are very damming. Ogeron is the coach you guys are devalued what the 2017 LSU tiger football “Team” has done and in turn are devaluing Greedys breakout season, Guice coming back and proving his worth after injury, Whites emergence as a superstar, Chark bursting into the national scene and Etlings supremely efficient gritty and mostly mistake free year. You people are so focused on the agenda of unseating O you cant see the fact that you’re knocking all these guys and that these players and recruits read this shite.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:24 am to
He didn’t need to be we are taking about what kindve talent we had on a college roster not the finished NFL product. You’re moving the goal post again, the comment was we had the most talented roster in program history and once again you’re trying to devalue it which is a total double standard as our current coach doesn’t get the excuse of “these guys are future pros but they’re not pros now.” Constant double standard comparisons.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:31 am to
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You people are so focused on the agenda of unseating O you cant see the fact that you’re knocking all these guys and that these players and recruits read this shite.


How is questioning the hire a knock on the players?

I’ve given O credit for keeping the team together after the Troy loss. I’ll be the first to admit that I thought the team would fall apart after that game, and I was wrong. Orgeron deserves some credit for that.

I still think he isn’t a good coach, he didn’t deserve the job, and this hire will set the program back.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:45 am to
Questioning the hire? Cmon dude devaluing wins has nothing to do with the hire. I don’t think he should’ve gotten the job but that’s another story. Still complaining about the hire during a season in which we’ve improved over last year and with a possibility to win 10 games for the first time since 2013 is ridiculous. His resume didn’t warrant him getting the job but he’s won at a 75% clip since getting it with the biggest roster turnover in over 15 years. Don’t you think it’s time to move on? He’s already proven the negatigers wrong this season the team is improving so what’s the problem? Besides Saban, Meyer and Harbaugh nobody’s a sure thing so why keep crying over something that was never gonna happen in the first place?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66572 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:51 am to
I only see 1 high value win.

I am Not going to take anything away from beating auburn.

But I dont See any other win that really impresses me given this teams talent.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:57 am to
Nobody expected James Franklin to do what he’s done at Penn State, nobody expected Matt Campbell to do what he’s done at Iowa State. Not everybody is a prodigy and starts winning right away all the time, sometimes you learn how to win through taking lumps. I’m not saying Ogeron is a no doubt rising star but we are trending up, his first class was good including two of the most promising QBs in the past 15 years, and he’s pulling big time dlieman is which is going to start to show next year. Ask any coach about what separates the SEC from other conferences and nearly all of them will say the dline play. I’m truly worried about the Canada situation and depending how it shakes out will mean a lot going forward. But seeing him land QBs and big time dlineman gives me hope.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66572 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:05 am to
We are trending up in season

We aren’t trending up as a program.

9-3 is pretty common at LSU.

We lost 3 or less games 8/11 seasons.
We still have to win a bowl game to show this is a status quo season.

We’re only trending up from out colossally terrible start.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:12 am to
And you’re 100% right, A&M isn’t god awful and Florida hadn’t folded their tent yet but they’re nothing to beat your chest about. As far as our talent level, we had a beat up team the first quarter of the season. Players like Lawrence, Guice, Key, Tolliver, Alexander, Weathersby, Malone and Thompson are huge losses and when you see teams like Clemson losing to Syracuse because of 1 guy, FSU going 5-6 with a loaded roster because they lost a QB, it shows that it could’ve been worse early on. We lost 1 game at full strength this season, and if you go back and re-watch Auburn, we dominated that game. We gave up two big plays on flukes but for the other 68 plays we gave up 253 yards to the number 2 team in the country. We scored more points than Bama more points than Clemson did against Auburn and if O would’ve given Canda the reigns from the jump who knows where wedve ended up this season.
Posted by ineededanewname
Anywhere but here
Member since Nov 2017
228 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:18 am to
Not really, I asked you for proof, you continue to spout the same nonsense that is not proof. When I do not find proof in what you posted, you accuse me of having an agenda.


That is your MO
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:19 am to
We won 8 games last season, we haven’t won 10 games since 2013, in 115 years of LSU football we’ve won 10 games 14 times and only 2 coaches have ever done it in their first seasons as HC. Les Miles last 29 games at LSU he was 19-10 65%, Ogeron is 15-5 75%. Vegas predicted us to win 9 games this season, if we get to 10 considering all of that how are we not trending up and improving?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:22 am to
More lies, every fact i stated has been linked and proven you just keep ignoring them while constantly making vague fake accusations to which you have no proof and have provided no evidence to support. You’re a joke now piss off the grownups are talking.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:28 am to
78 post lol nice troll alter
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202955 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:35 am to
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Preseason rankings don't mean anything



FACT.........
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202955 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:38 am to
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JaMarcus Russell was the #1 overall pick in 2006z he would not have been in 2005. So that fact while true, means nothing.



Madking just wont understand this...

All he wants to do is try to destroy the Miles legacy for some reason.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:39 am to
No we’ve lost at least 4 games 4 times in the last 10 years. After winning 10 games in 5 of 7 seasons from 2001 to 2007 (71.4% of the seasons) we’ve only won 10 games in 4 of the last 9 before this season (44.4%). Winning 10 games this year is an improvement and is a reversal of the latest trend.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:42 am to
Lmao not only are you a pathetic stalker but every time you use the term “Fact” the statement you post is the exact opposite of a fact. Pre season rankings absolutely mean something, reverse Wisconsin and Ohio States pre season ranking and their situations are completely different you dolt. As far as the Jamarcus comment as usual you don’t have a clue what you’re even talking about, you just jumped into it to spite me because you’re obsessed.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:43 am to
Lol you could fill a library with what you don’t know.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202955 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:47 am to
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Lol you could fill a library with what you don’t know.



I know way more about the game than you Ricky..... you keep acting like JM was A 1st pick in the draft type player after the 2005 season... You are using his 2005 #'s to make it sound like his 2006 season... It just doesn't work that way........
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