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re: The LSU QB Delusion/Illusion
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:46 pm to 75503Tiger
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:46 pm to 75503Tiger
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as the JJ-Lee era, did not cross the 50 in the climatic moment. Others claim this was the end of greatness for LSU.
I mean even JJ got a chance (although not drafted.) he still had a shot as a FA with Tampa, right?
But JJ wasn't the worst QB in LSU history. The worst QB in a NC game for LSU; no doubt.
But he played his arse off while here.
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:57 pm to Errerrerrwere
JJ never seemed to be in control of his game and was inaccurate for his entire career. He had tools but never developed composure or displayed leadership. He did fight hard and ignored his critics. Seems that he did go to camp with Tampa.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:09 pm to atltiger6487
[quote]Johnny Football and Jameis won the Heisman as redshirt freshmen[/quote,]
So, your argument is that two freshman, which has never been done before in the history of college football, is to be taken for real, bruh?
It's an illusion.
ETA You bring up an outlier, sorry.
So, your argument is that two freshman, which has never been done before in the history of college football, is to be taken for real, bruh?
It's an illusion.
ETA You bring up an outlier, sorry.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:21 pm to Errerrerrwere
Anyone else wondering if we'd be having these QB arguments if Gunner Kiel had signed here instead of showing up at Notre Dame? A teenager has a mood swing and history changes. We'd have had that pro-style drop back guy we're all lusting after, and he'd probably be a senior now. Cam would probably be considered a QB guru instead of a hack. Most of the time it's not the coach, it's the kid.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:56 pm to 75503Tiger
JJ finished his LSU career as one of the top completion percentage winners in school history; no?!
I hate what he did in that NC game; but let's not throw LSU QBs under the bus here, ya'll.
But as a sophomore, Jordan Jefferson was the youngest LSU QB to start for his school AND The youngest SEC QB to start a season opener. We all know what JJ did the two years after that.
All I'm saying is the safe play here is Harris through the tutelage of CCC will be right where he needs to be next year.
I'm not going to go into the stats for Junior QBs because you already know what they are, I'm assuming.
I hate what he did in that NC game; but let's not throw LSU QBs under the bus here, ya'll.
But as a sophomore, Jordan Jefferson was the youngest LSU QB to start for his school AND The youngest SEC QB to start a season opener. We all know what JJ did the two years after that.
All I'm saying is the safe play here is Harris through the tutelage of CCC will be right where he needs to be next year.
I'm not going to go into the stats for Junior QBs because you already know what they are, I'm assuming.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:31 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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Mett transfered here after getting his QB development elsewhere
I don't know how you can type that BS with a straight face. Three months at Georgia and a year at a Junior College add up to QB development to you, but three years at LSU doesn't? What a retard.
Matt was a RS freshman in 2003 and 3rd sting in 2004 throwing ten passes. He backed up Russell in 2005, 2006, and started in 2007, but you think his development was in the two years hardly played as opposed to the three he did play.
You don't crap about football, do you.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:49 am to atltiger6487
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I don't have time to do all the research, but off the top of my head, last year J.T. Barrett (as a RS Freshman) and then Cardale Jones (as a sophomore) led Ohio State to the NC. Johnny Football and Jameis won the Heisman as redshirt freshmen. Josh Rosen lit it up this year at UCLA as a true freshman. The year before, Brett Hundley lit it up as a RS freshman. DeShone Kizer had a very good year this year at Notre Dame as a sophomore.
Shall I keep going?
LSU recruited some of those players, they chose to go elsewhere. Outside of tOSU and FSU, those other schools have nothing to show for their qbs lighting up scrubs. And tOSU qb position didn't look so good at times this season. Regressed I think is the term.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:53 am to dgnx6
Sophomore slump is what they call it?
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:28 am to Errerrerrwere
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It wasn't until Miles came to Baton Rouge, was Russell able to shine.
What a technicality...
Russell was tied to Jimbo INFINITELY more than Miles.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:15 am to 75503Tiger
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Seems as though Seniors play in a way that makes fans happier, until they blow a NC game. Truth is that none of these qbs performed far better than what Harris did in 2015. The good news? Harris will get better so get off his azz!
You might want to work on clarifying your closing argument. Regarding the Harris 2015 statement, I'm ssuming that you're implying "at this point in their career" and not only that SENIOR QB's have been satisfactory.
Otherwise J Russ 2005 & 2006 is choking on purple drank while laughing hysterically.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:21 am to dcw7g
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Anyone else wondering if we'd be having these QB arguments if Gunner Kiel had signed here instead of showing up at Notre Dame? A teenager has a mood swing and history changes. We'd have had that pro-style drop back guy we're all lusting after, and he'd probably be a senior now. Cam would probably be considered a QB guru instead of a hack. Most of the time it's not the coach, it's the kid.
No, because we all already know it's Perrilloux's fault. /sarcasm
Posted on 1/8/16 at 5:26 am to goatmilker
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Its simple. The QB play the last 5 years has not been on par with the rest of the team. Its seemed to have held the team back as a position from greater glory.
Its been frustrating at times to say the least.
Its also been frustrating seeing QB's brought in that don't seem to be the type of QB's that they want to bring in.
So after 5 years there is a even bigger spotlight on a position that is always brightly illuminated.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 5:29 am
Posted on 1/8/16 at 5:28 am to Errerrerrwere
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In fact, when I googled QBU a link from NFL.COM showed LSU as the #5 school in terms of "QBU" according to the NFL with 7 drafted QBs over the last 25 years.
There are lies, Damn Lies, then there are Statistics
Posted on 1/8/16 at 5:28 am to mattz1122
Jamarcus sucked till his Jr year, Flynn sucked till his SR year, Mett sucked till his halfway thru his JR year, and btw if we didn't recruit him, how the frick did he get here? Dak Prescott sucked till his jr year, Bo Wallace sucked till his SR year, do you see a pattern here?
Wonder QB Johnny Manziel never beat us. Bama won a NC with McElroy ...and they will steamroll Clemson with Henry 45 carries
Wonder QB Johnny Manziel never beat us. Bama won a NC with McElroy ...and they will steamroll Clemson with Henry 45 carries
Posted on 1/8/16 at 5:48 am to ODSanchez
This guy gets it. It's downright asisine to say Miles has been developing qbs. I'm not saying he can't get it done just pointing out that as of lately we suck at throwing the ball.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 5:54 am to alumni95
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You might want to work on clarifying your closing argument. Regarding the Harris 2015 statement, I'm ssuming that you're implying "at this point in their career" and not only that SENIOR QB's have been satisfactory.
Otherwise J Russ 2005 & 2006 is choking on purple drank while laughing hysterically.
True, we enjoyed his play and he wasn't a Senior. The purple drank comment, that cracked me up.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 11:00 am
Posted on 1/8/16 at 7:14 am to ecb
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Jamarcus sucked till his Jr year, Flynn sucked till his SR year,
Don't show your ignorance to make an arguement. Jamarcus was pretty dang good his sophomore year. Flynn was very good in the Bowl game that same year.
JR left for the NFL after his Jr year.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 7:33 am to Errerrerrwere
every year outside of top 100 in passing. with the exception of those QBs. Many schools produce inside the top 100 without sending that QB to the nfl. I don't really care if the get to the nfl. Just consistently produce a passing game inside the top 70 and LSU is more dangerous that usual.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 7:36 am
Posted on 1/8/16 at 7:46 am to Errerrerrwere
Tommy Hodson- Alan Risher, Ensminger and Bert Jones wouldn't have played for LSU if Miles had been here. They are pure pocket passers and lsu would have gone after the cam newton clone that they seem fixated on.
Problem with the cam newton prototype is there is only one cam newton and he plays for Carolina.
Problem with the cam newton prototype is there is only one cam newton and he plays for Carolina.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 7:47 am
Posted on 1/8/16 at 8:27 am to 75503Tiger
quote:False parroted narrative.
2008-2011 was the JJ-Lee era, did not cross the 50 in the climatic moment.
2nd half LSU was in FG range until a penalty and then a sack on next play ruined the drive.
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