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re: The LSU offense is coming. They're getting better.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:43 am to NawlinsTigah270
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:43 am to NawlinsTigah270
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If you consider the 115th ranked passing offense and 120 yards per game a success.
quote:Reading is fundamental. Understanding statistics is also fundamental.
Not sure I'd call 100+ ranked passing attack successful.
Read what I wrote. Read the basis for the passing offense statistic.
That stat is based solely on being a prolific passing team. It has nothing to do with being a successful passing team or, more importantly, being a successful offense or successful team.
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Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:45 am to NawlinsTigah270
quote:So what you are saying is that if your running game is efficient, you don't have to throw as much.
bama had the best o-line and running back in the nation... just sayin
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:46 am to Prominentwon
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I understand the frustrations as well.....
but you don't know this. You don't know the gameplans going into games. Stop acting as if you do.
I know for a fact that if our coaches are intentionally sandbagging and expecting to be able to magicaly "turn on the switch" than we've got bigger problems than anyone knows.
No coach in his right mind doesn't execute his offense fully for half the season because he's waiting for a big game. Sure you might save a package or a personnel grouping, but you're off your rocker if yal think we're purposefully not gameplanning and scheming to the highest level against each opponent.
We're just not good at offense, it has nothing to do with saving stuff.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:49 am to FootballNostradamus
What prediction!
Genius!
The passing game will improve? There is a good chance it will.
Regression to the mean anyone?
Regardless, I have my concerns.
Genius!
The passing game will improve? There is a good chance it will.
Regression to the mean anyone?
Regardless, I have my concerns.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:50 am to just me
I completely agree with your theme, If LSU had felt the need to throw more vs State and Jefferson had thrown 32passes intead of 16, and JJs completion % was the same his stats would be 20 of 32 for 194 yds. I would see that as a pretty good game for a qb.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:50 am to FootballNostradamus
quote:I don't think it has anything to do with saving stuff. I think it has everything to do with developing the offense and putting them in the best position to win.
I know for a fact that if our coaches are intentionally sandbagging and expecting to be able to magicaly "turn on the switch" than we've got bigger problems than anyone knows.
No coach in his right mind doesn't execute his offense fully for half the season because he's waiting for a big game. Sure you might save a package or a personnel grouping, but you're off your rocker if yal think we're purposefully not gameplanning and scheming to the highest level against each opponent.
We're just not good at offense, it has nothing to do with saving stuff.
Putting the offense in the best position to win does not mean having the most prolific passing team in college football. Moreover, after the Vandy game, it seemed reasonable to take one step back before taking several steps forward.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:52 am to just me
I said that all last year. Then I realized I was wrong.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:55 am to FootballNostradamus
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I know for a fact that if our coaches are intentionally sandbagging
I stopped reading there. Its a fact that that is your opinion.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:56 am to just me
LSU's rushing offense is ranked 32nd in the country. There is a much higher correlation between running the ball and winning than passing and winning. Of course, correlation is not causation (teams that are ahead tend to run the ball to shorten the game), but if you have to pick... I pick a good running game. Alabama's passing offense was just as dismal as ours last season and they won a MNC.
I do think the coaches ran a super conservative gameplan against MSU torebuild JJ's confidence and because MSU didn't force LSU to open it up. And I did see encouraging signs in how JJ played. He looked more confident in the pocket than he did against Vandy (though it would be hard to be less confident).
I think if you're waiting for this team to suddenly become the Air Raid, you will be disappointed, but I was encouraged by the improvement against MSU (and the first half vs. UNC). I do think the team will open it up more as it plays better teams just out of neccessity. But I would like to see the YPA go from 6.0 closer to the NCAA average of 7.0.
I do think the coaches ran a super conservative gameplan against MSU torebuild JJ's confidence and because MSU didn't force LSU to open it up. And I did see encouraging signs in how JJ played. He looked more confident in the pocket than he did against Vandy (though it would be hard to be less confident).
I think if you're waiting for this team to suddenly become the Air Raid, you will be disappointed, but I was encouraged by the improvement against MSU (and the first half vs. UNC). I do think the team will open it up more as it plays better teams just out of neccessity. But I would like to see the YPA go from 6.0 closer to the NCAA average of 7.0.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:57 am to CWGriswald
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Trying like hell to share your optimism
Posted on 9/23/10 at 10:59 am to just me
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I know for a fact that if our coaches are intentionally sandbagging and expecting to be able to magicaly "turn on the switch" than we've got bigger problems than anyone knows.
No coach in his right mind doesn't execute his offense fully for half the season because he's waiting for a big game. Sure you might save a package or a personnel grouping, but you're off your rocker if yal think we're purposefully not gameplanning and scheming to the highest level against each opponent.
We're just not good at offense, it has nothing to do with saving stuff.
I don't think it has anything to do with saving stuff. I think it has everything to do with developing the offense and putting them in the best position to win.
Putting the offense in the best position to win does not mean having the most prolific passing team in college football. Moreover, after the Vandy game, it seemed reasonable to take one step back before taking several steps forward.
Kinda like the offense was developed last year? No in fact we were somewhat above average against weak teams but then our struggles showed up against the elite teams and we ended with an abyssmal overall ranking.
Our ranking will be better this year simply because of our running game, but I don't think some realize how poor our passing game is. It's embarassing for a team with talent at WR that we have to struggle so mightly.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:00 am to NawlinsTigah270
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bama had the best o-line and running back in the nation... just sayin
+1 and also the best Defense in college football as well. The clueless one's on here talk about how Bama didn't have to throw much last year and and it's all about running the football thinking as if our OLine and running backs can come even close to what Bama has.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:02 am to FootballNostradamus
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I know for a fact that if our coaches are intentionally sandbagging and expecting to be able to magicaly "turn on the switch" than we've got bigger problems than anyone knows.
No coach in his right mind doesn't execute his offense fully for half the season because he's waiting for a big game. Sure you might save a package or a personnel grouping, but you're off your rocker if yal think we're purposefully not gameplanning and scheming to the highest level against each opponent.
We're just not good at offense, it has nothing to do with saving stuff.
wow. rewatch the SEC champ last year hero.
is saban as stupid as you claim miles to be?
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:08 am to Jason
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as if our OLine and running backs can come even close to what Bama has.
If you ask the rant Ford> Ingram.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:11 am to FootballNostradamus
Our run offense will have to carry us this year. J.J. will never be able to run Crowtons offense like Flynn did.
Apparently, Miles will not give Lee a chance at taking over at QB until we lose a game or an injury to J.J.
Miles' strategy this year is to win with a running game and strong defense at the expense of trying to win the SEC by taking a chance with Lee at QB.
Considering all the attacks on Miles by our vocal haters, winning with defense and limiting the turnover risk on offense is probably the best way for Miles to protect his job.
Apparently, Miles will not give Lee a chance at taking over at QB until we lose a game or an injury to J.J.
Miles' strategy this year is to win with a running game and strong defense at the expense of trying to win the SEC by taking a chance with Lee at QB.
Considering all the attacks on Miles by our vocal haters, winning with defense and limiting the turnover risk on offense is probably the best way for Miles to protect his job.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:11 am to FootballNostradamus
quote:Last year's offense had problems that this year's offense does not appear to have.
Kinda like the offense was developed last year? No in fact we were somewhat above average against weak teams but then our struggles showed up against the elite teams and we ended with an abyssmal overall ranking.
2009 Rushing Offense was ranked 90th.
2010 Rushing Offense is ranked 32nd.
The Vandy game was an aberration for the passing game. The UNC and MSU games tend to confirm that assessment.
quote:Two-thirds of the talent at WR is pretty damn young and inexperienced. It is developing. As it develops, and as Jefferson develops, the passing offense will develop.
Our ranking will be better this year simply because of our running game, but I don't think some realize how poor our passing game is. It's embarassing for a team with talent at WR that we have to struggle so mightly.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:14 am to just me
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Against MSU, there was a reason not to call the entire offense.
I'm not saying we won't see a wrinkle or two down the stretch but, basically with this offense imho, what you see is what you get.
We are who we are.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:16 am to Lsupimp
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I'm not saying we won't see a wrinkle or two down the stretch but, basically with this offense imho, what you see is what you get
+1
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We are who we are
This
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:18 am to FootballNostradamus
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No coach in his right mind doesn't execute his offense fully for half the season because he's waiting for a big game. Sure you might save a package or a personnel grouping, but you're off your rocker if yal think we're purposefully not gameplanning and scheming to the highest level against each opponent.
Miles is probably the most paranoid coach in the country. He holds everything close to the vest
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:20 am to Jason
For as poor as everyone believes this offense is, we are averaging 28.6 points per game against middle of the pack teams (not cupcakes/but not good teams).
What is UF, Aub, S. Car, etc. averaging? I would bet not much better against about the same competition.
What is UF, Aub, S. Car, etc. averaging? I would bet not much better against about the same competition.
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