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The "if Saban was recorded doing this, you would all call him a cheater" nonsense
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:23 pm
So? We probably would. And other fans are calling Wade a cheater.
So? Fans are not the NCAA and calling a coach a cheater doesn't mean shite.
Does anyone think that Saban would be in ANY trouble if the situation was the same and the recordings were the same?
No way. Of course Wade is talking about cheating on those tapes. I haven't seen a single LSU fan seriously say otherwise. Whether that can proven is what is in question.
Absent any additional evidence or information, nothing will happen with this.
So? Fans are not the NCAA and calling a coach a cheater doesn't mean shite.
Does anyone think that Saban would be in ANY trouble if the situation was the same and the recordings were the same?
No way. Of course Wade is talking about cheating on those tapes. I haven't seen a single LSU fan seriously say otherwise. Whether that can proven is what is in question.
Absent any additional evidence or information, nothing will happen with this.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:26 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Absent any additional evidence or information, nothing will happen with this.
Is that really true though? I hope so, but the NCAA doesn't have the same burden of proof that the legal system has.... Either way, I'm going to enjoy this. If something happens, then I'll be sad.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Or, if yahoo had plane tickets..
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:40 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
What means shite are the wire taps where they have Will Wade trying to pay players... and it looks like he succeeded.
Keep on sugar coating though.
Keep on sugar coating though.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:46 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
It’s not that we’re naive enough to believe he isn’t talking about what we think he’s talking about. It’s the fact that we’re getting called out for something that all the prominent programs are also doing. And it’s never the prominent programs who examples are made out of. It’s the programs trying to keep up with and compete with those programs that are targeted.
Still, despite the wording and inferences, there are no monies listed, no amounts, Regardless, if he is burned, I hope he takes the whole college basketball institution with him. Burn the whole thing down.
Still, despite the wording and inferences, there are no monies listed, no amounts, Regardless, if he is burned, I hope he takes the whole college basketball institution with him. Burn the whole thing down.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:47 pm to msutiger
I'm neither angry nor in denial. I'm just countering a silly argument floating around.
Whether LSU fans would call another coach a cheater in the same situation is not relevant, because the NCAA does not investigate based on fans' opinions.
There is either evidence or there is not. Currently there is not. If evidence were to surface, then the situation would be different.
Whether LSU fans would call another coach a cheater in the same situation is not relevant, because the NCAA does not investigate based on fans' opinions.
There is either evidence or there is not. Currently there is not. If evidence were to surface, then the situation would be different.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:47 pm to BDJ
quote:yep. I love the Tigers, but I'm not a blind homer. I value intellectual honesty above loyalty to a team or university.
What means shite are the wire taps where they have Will Wade trying to pay players... and it looks like he succeeded.
Keep on sugar coating though.
All I know is - if Saban were on that tape, every single poster on this board (including me) would be destroying him.
But not for our guy - this board just circles the wagons.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:49 pm to atltiger6487
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All I know is - if Saban were on that tape, every single poster on this board (including me) would be destroying him.
Of course we would. I said as much in the OP. That's what fans do. However, the opinions fans means nothing. There is either evidence or there is not.
What would you "destroying him" accomplish? Nothing.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:50 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Nick Saban would never had gotten caught like that. They would have gotten an assistant to say it Saban would have denied any knowledge they fire the coach maybe lose a scholarship or two and move on.
I’m not mad at Will Wade if he cheated. I’m mad that he was careless and got himself caught in a bad spot. Make an assistant do that or someone not in LSU payroll and claim deniability.
I’m not mad at Will Wade if he cheated. I’m mad that he was careless and got himself caught in a bad spot. Make an assistant do that or someone not in LSU payroll and claim deniability.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:53 pm to GeauxPack81
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Either way, I'm going to enjoy this. If something happens, then I'll be sad.
I'm going to enjoy this regardless. LSU is now officially doing what it takes to be relevant in CBB. Like it or not, that's the truth.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:54 pm to geauxtigers33
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Nick Saban would never had gotten caught like that.
People keep saying Coach XYZ would've never gotten caught like that. You don't know that. You don't know what these coaches do or who they discuss things with.
No one expects to be the victim of an FBI wiretap. If the FBI wanted to catch coaches cheating, then Saban and everyone else would be caught.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:55 pm to atltiger6487
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yep. I love the Tigers, but I'm not a blind homer. I value intellectual honesty above loyalty to a team or university.
Anyone that values intellectual honesty should know that this goes on at every blue blood CBB team in the country.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:56 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:fella, nothing we say on this board accomplishes anything. We're just LSU fans discussing the events of the day.
What would you "destroying him" accomplish? Nothing.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:58 pm to slackster
quote:I never said it didn't, I'm not naive. I know this stuff goes on a lot of places (and went on at LSU in the 80s, and I personally witnessed several examples, which I've posted here before).
Anyone that values intellectual honesty should know that this goes on at every blue blood CBB team in the country.
I'm just saying that blindly defending Wade while hurling cheating accusations at Saban and others is hypocritical.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 4:00 pm to atltiger6487
It’s funny how other programs are doing it they don’t care but LSU is doing it they do care just haters of lsu
Posted on 3/7/19 at 4:03 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Of course Wade is talking about cheating on those tapes.
These are your words, so let’s just assume he is talking about cheating. He will be asked about it, under oath, by a federal prosecutor and/or defense team. It seems to me he only has 3 options there:
1) Lie about it. This would subject him to federal perjury charges and possible imprisonment.
2) Admit to it. This is all the “proof” the NCAA would need.
3) Rufuse to answer on advice of council/plead the 5th—I’m not sure he can even do that here, as I’m not sure what he would be admitting to would be an actual crime. The 5th Amendment doesn’t prevent you from admitting you committed NCAA violations. Not to mention they could grant his immunity, since he’s not who they care about. But even if he can and does plead the 5th, this would seem like an admission in and of itself, especially to the NCAA who has a much lower standard to meet than “reasonable doubt.”
There’s a lot of naivety here clearly. If you believe Wade cheated and was talking about it on those tapes(and you said yourself you did), it seems the only way out of this is by somehow getting out of having to be sworn under oath at all.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 4:05 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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People keep saying Coach XYZ would've never gotten caught like that. You don't know that. You don't know what these coaches do or who they discuss things with.
My point is you see with football it’s always an assistant that is caught. It’s happened almost everywhere including Bama and it happened at LSU under Miles. They head coach just plays dumb and they fire the assistant. You can be like Saban and be the smartest man in the room and be an absolute control freak then play dumb and act like it was a rogue employee. No they know exactly what they are doing but they stay out of the way so they don’t get burned.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 4:09 pm to Kidcube1
quote:right, everybody hates LSU.
It’s funny how other programs are doing it they don’t care but LSU is doing it they do care just haters of lsu
Makes perfect sense.
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