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re: The decline was real since 2011

Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:23 pm to
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No way getting around that fact. Miles is more at fault than O

This is correct. We - the LSU fanbase base - are the most gullible group of people on God's green earth.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:23 pm to
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The decline began when we blew the game against Bama in Tiger Stadium in 2012 and hasn't slowed down at all since



this!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48067 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:24 pm to
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know i am not a miles fan but for some reason I just do not want to throw this whole shite sammich we saw saturday night on Miles. something reeks. Miles had issues but man. SOmething else seems to be going o


well i agree miles inherited a far better oline and dline than O did.
miles inherited more talent than O but o has plenty of talent to not have the worst loss in the history of lsu vs msu.


if we were winning no one woukd be wanting to give credit to miles so he shouldn't gey blamed if we lose. thats being a hypocrite( not saying you are)
Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44131 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:25 pm to
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LSU has never recovered from the beat down we got from Bama in the N.C



Any LSU fan that disagrees with this is delusional.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:30 pm
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15287 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:25 pm to
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No way getting around that fact. Miles is more at fault than O


That shouldn't make anyone feel any better about the current state of the team.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:26 pm to
Really? Because I do remember getting our shite pushed in by State in 2014 AT HOME. Or are you one of those idiots that is going to say we only lost by one possession so it wasn't that bad?
Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44131 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:29 pm to
They did. Mullen beat LSU two out of the last four years.


Btw we have gotten really bad in the trenches. LSU gets pushed around like step children now. Been that way since 2013
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48067 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:29 pm to
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Again you've only showed one statement and left the entire rest of the convo out as expected. You've lost your mind


holy shite



you responded to my thread. i know exactly what the discussion was because i started it.

my op...
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Nothing will change until this guy is shown the door. how many coaching hires does he need to fail at for us to make a change? This past football hire might be the biggest hire in lsu history following 2 very successful coaches and he gambles by hiring a coach that has never in his life proven he can run a successful program AND THEN GIVES HIM A HUGE BUYOUT. That itself should be a grounds for termination. Its time for this guy to go.



here is your entire post....
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You can blame O all you want but so far nobody has given a single example I what O did to cost us this game. The fault last night is on Aranda and Canada. Arandas gameplan was pure garbage and Canada to this point has shown nothing of the offense he ran at Pitt. We can sit here and say we are thin at WR and make excuses for this guy but it's BS. In the Pitt v Clemson game last year he was in shotgun 70% of the time bit last night we were still using run run pass punt until the 7 minute mark in the 4th quarter!!! I told a friend I was watching th game with last night after our third drive that we couldn't move their dline and would have to have 35-40 pass attempts to win the game. We had 22 with just under 8 minutes left down by 30. Last night was bad but it could be a valuable lesson that we need to extinguish all of our old habits (run heavy) and totally go to what Canada did at Pitt. His system works he upset great teams last year with it and his concepts are being used in the NFL now, look at K.C. They're the suprise team in the league and they're using his stuff to do it.



thats the entire discussion. please show me where i took anything out of context?

the fact that you cant admit you did it after i show you that yes i do know the what the discussion was about is crazy.


you can never admit to being wrong even when facts prove you wrong.


good god.

your post again.....
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You can blame O all you want but so far nobody has given a single example I what O did to cost us this game. The fault last night is on Aranda and Canada.



there is no way to take that post as anything other tha you wanting to remove blame from O.

This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:30 pm to
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LSU has never recovered from the beat down we got from Bama in the N.C
It blew his cover and exposed him for what he really was from Day #1.
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Any LSU that disagrees with this is delusional.

And any that disagrees that Les Miles won his NC on the back of Saban needs to be taken out and clunked. Any Miles accolades flow straight back to Saban. I'm not a Saban fan, but face facts. The evidence is all around us and overwhelming. The true measure of Miles' ability is to look at who hired him as their new head coach. Oh wait.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48067 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:31 pm to
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Because I do remember getting our shite pushed in by State in 2014 AT HOME


the final score matters but you want to ignore it because it doesn't fit your opinion.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32619 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:32 pm to
We should've went undefeated in 2013 with mett and co. so frick that
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48067 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:33 pm to
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And any that disagrees that Les Miles won his NC on the back of Saban needs to be taken out and clunked





he is the only lsu coach to make it to the title game with 100% his recruits.


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The true measure of Miles' ability is to look at who hired him as their new head coach. Oh wait


out of work for 11 months doesnt erase one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history. sorry.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66895 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:37 pm to
No it isn't I posted after that so did you. I couldn't care less you have serious social problems dude I'm done. Keep up the double standards I see that and half truths are still your bread and butter. "Saban won the sec with 3 losses" hey dumbass he also won it with 1 loss but you leave that out (half truth). The real outlier is Miles winning a natty with 2 losses yet you never knock him like you do Sabans 3 loss SEC title which is literally infinitely more common (double standard). And top it off with false stats about Miles last 5 seasons vs Sabans 5 and you have the Rick trifecta. Try either telling the truth or quit calling your opinions fact both make you look ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:38 pm
Posted by cphill
Member since Sep 2009
1400 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:38 pm to
Let's face it....we're no longer a top level program.....and haven't been in a while......8-9 wins looks like a max now......we want to be Bama or Clemson.....unfortunately.....we're not......and even if we fire Orgeron, could we really attract a "name" coach???.....doubtful....
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66895 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:39 pm to
Lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao what's funny is you actually believe it lmfao.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:40 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:40 pm to
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out of work for 11 months doesnt erase one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history. sorry.

Interesting presumption - and wrong. More babbling speculation. He did it with 100% of the momentum and heavy lifting of his predecessor. Put the credit where it's due. Do you honestly think Miles could take a 3-8 team and turn it into an NC? Really? He was handed the keys to the kingdom... a Ferrari and very big tank of gas... and he squandered it. Saban's still winning NC's. Where's what's his name? Connect the dots, old boy... Look around.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:56 pm
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
7183 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:43 pm to
So pissed I was overseas stayed up all night to watch that shite show with some Clemson fans we had that game won and blew it :/
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48067 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:48 pm to
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No it isn't I posted after that so did you


thats irrelevant. that was your 1st reply.

you clearly were removing blame from o.
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Keep up the double standards I see that and half truths are still your bread and butter

facts you dont like are my bread and butter
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hey dumbass


by all means go ahead and make the 1 person one here that doesnt hate you, hate you.

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The real outlier is Miles winning a natty with 2 losses yet you never knock him



i knock miles all the time. ive repeatedly said the losses to kentucky and arky were unacceptable.

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yet you never knock him like you do Sabans 3 loss SEC title which is literally infinitely more common


when did i say it wasnt?

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And top it off with false stats about Miles last 5 seasons vs Sabans 5 and you have the Rick trifecta


yeah used 5 FULL seasons and acknowledge it when i post
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Try either telling the truth or quit calling your opinions fact both make you look ridiculous.


the fricking irony



Myles brennon committed under O.

UM is a defensive coach because my opinion outweighs the direct qoutes from UM and the coaches that came up under him.

youre taking my posts out of context yet that post can only be taken as me removing blame from O.


This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:50 pm to
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the final score matters but you want to ignore it because it doesn't fit your opinion.

So answer the question.

Do you not think we got our shite pushed in against Mississippi State in 2014?

Do you think we played them close?

Their starting OL was on the bench with no pads on.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83269 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:53 pm to
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So much for any bum being able to won 10 games here.

I never believed that nonsense. Considering many coaches have failed at LSU. I do believe that LSU is never more than 2-3 years from having a good team, thanks to the recruiting base.
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