re: The best way to change the SEC referee issues...

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That the head of sec replay booth is a huge bama booster is a big problem

The fact that he was allowed anywhere near replay booth in 2009 LSU bama game was criminal

And we saw how that one call gave bama the win and allowed them to get to nc game

Geaux Tiger TM's points are not only rational, but essentially irrefutable. I fully agree with them and would like to expand on them. I think the biggest problem of Alabama grads being in influential positions within the SEC offices is best seen by the situation involving Mark Womack and scheduling the last few years.

As pointed out Womack is an Alabama grad (as well as a grad of Tuscaloosa High). He also, prior to becoming, essentially the number three guy in the SEC offices, worked in the Alabama Athletic Department. He was in charge of the committee that determined out of division conference scheduling, after Texas A&M and Missouri were added. After it was determined that teams would retain their permanent out of division opponent (certainly at the behest mostly of Alabama and Tennessee, and to a lesser degree Auburn and Georgia), each school had to be assigned one other out of division game. I've been unable to find exactly how this was done, other than knowing it was done by the committee headed up by Womack.

Long story short, Alabama (who was scheduled to play Georgia in a home and home rotation in 2012-2013) plays Missouri in 2012 and Kentucky in 2013. LSU was given South Carolina in 2012 and Georgia in 2013. No one, given the recent history of those teams and expectations placed on all those teams involved, could argue LSU was not given an unquestionably tougher road to navigate than Alabama. Now, there is no way of ever knowing if any "bias" toward his alma mater and former employer played any role in those decisions. But, to quote Geaux Tiger TM's earlier post "so long as there is this very open conflict of interest we, as other members of the conference, will ALWAYS have a reason to wonder if we're getting screwed."

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he Bama guy misses the game tying kick you guys aren't even whining about the refs. But we need something to point at since it didn't work out that way

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because we were in it at that point and the game was in question once the fumble occurred. Then a judgement call came in. Can you admit that the PF was a judgement call?

I think the ref called it because he pushed him after whistle, and throwing the flag on the guy who gets caught doing the shoving last is nothing new to football

Judgement call? Yes

A call to conspire against LSU and purposely help Alabama? No

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I don't fault the official for throwing it on Vadal if that's all HE saw, but I do fault the rest of the crew for not setting it straight given someone else could have certainly seen the rest of the fracas.

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they won't listen to you. they're delusional and proud of their team and their cheat refs

Look, we all know there is corruption in SEC football. WE know it has been going on for years and the proof is been demonstrated especially since the 2006 Auburn game. We know that having the SEC offices in Birmingham is problematic. Here is my solution as to how to beat the GUMPS:

Develop a competent offense where the receivers actually catch the balls thrown to them by a mediocre , at best, QB.

Star developing a QB that can both rn and throw and does not need to go with a "check with me" thing before every snap.

Inform the TE that he is a receiver and as such is expected to try to get open for passes and also catch said passes.

Teach DB' that when you have the lead and the other team has no time outs with less than a minute left, that tackling the receiver in bounds actually gives you a better shot at winning the game.

I know we are still smarting after this because it always seems that Bama can pull a win out of its arse perhaps with the help of the guys in stripes, but we let up late.

In two years with the players we have now at the skill positions LSU WILL be in a position to knock the living crap out of Bama. I just hope that if Miles gets an opportunity to humiliate the Gumps that he takes advantage of it.

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because overtime should have never happened. Alabama got free football because of the dirt Personal foul after the fumble. Judgement call right?

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You are assuming a lot. You are assuming that LSU scores a TD. You are assuming that Alabama doesn't score a TD at the end of regulation. You are ignoring the kick out of bounds.

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I do believe Vadal's pushing was probably warranted. But like I said, the retaliator getting the flag is nothing new to football..it sucks, but it is what it is

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No doubt...but would agree that in most cases you'd never see that flag thrown for what amounted to s shove in the chest and not a punch thrown in that instance? We're told all the time that officials DO, in fact, take into account how much a particular foul affects the play before calling it. I quoted Tom Ritter himself last week talking about how holding is the hardest call to make because you could throw it on every play but don't and therefore have to DECIDE when a hold really effects a play.

So I really don;t fault the official who threw it for throwing it. Maybe form him angle he simply did not see anything but what looked like some egregious shove by Vadal. But not either waving it off or calling it offsetting given the entirety of the play after getting together for nearly a minute to discuss it with the rest of the crew is simply not acceptable and I'd argue unjustified.

Did it cost LSU the game? As with most things, we'll never know. What we do know is it cost LSU two legit shots at at least going for a TD on that series. No coach in the country, even Miles, tempts fate and plays for a TD after being moved back to the 21 there. 2nd and goal from the 6 gets you two more shots running down BAMA's throat...something LSU had done all night.

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Vadal should've known better and kept his cool

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I really would love to agree here, but I just don;t think what he did was bad enough to come down on him. We've had LSU played do exactly that in the past, and I've been pissed about it. I want to say Tyson Jackson did this at least once. Was Rasco the last do cost us doing this? I forget. Both in both of those cases what they did absolutely warranted the flag and it was clear they did something dumb and let their emotions get the better of them. Alexander did not even appear to being going after the guy or pushing him in anger. More like, "Get the frick off of me."

I see your point...I do. I just disagree.

Solid post