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re: The BCS vs Playoff Debate
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:39 am to hojo
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:39 am to hojo
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So Oklahoma was deserving over Texas last year?
blame the big12, not the BCS, for that one
texas didn't light the world on fire in their bowl game
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And you can't tell me that the 2006 LSU team wasn't better than Ohio State.
dude OSU was MURDERING people that year, all year, and they beat UT by more than 1 score...on the road
This post was edited on 7/15/09 at 10:39 am
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:39 am to hojo
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So Oklahoma was deserving over Texas last year? Seriously?
Sure (at least as deserving). Paper beat rock beat scissors beat paper in the Big12. It was a tie. But Oklahoma's OOC schedule was much better than Texas'.
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And you can't tell me that the 2006 LSU team wasn't better than Ohio State.
So now you flipped from deserving (OSU went undefeated and beat Texas OOC) to "best" team?
This post was edited on 7/15/09 at 10:40 am
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:40 am to Baloo
there is more than just guesswork
with some tweaking (namely SOS and adding MOV to select games), you can improve the system a great deal
but look at the success of the BCS. by many accounts it's 10/10 and at worst 8/10. no other sport has that accuracy
with some tweaking (namely SOS and adding MOV to select games), you can improve the system a great deal
but look at the success of the BCS. by many accounts it's 10/10 and at worst 8/10. no other sport has that accuracy
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:43 am to LSU Red24
Everyone should quit worring about this. Congress is going to address this issue and if the White House gets involved we will have something in place by August regarless how many billions it cost,

Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:43 am to hojo
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And you can't tell me that the 2006 LSU team wasn't better than Ohio State.
It doesn't matter. Ohio State was more deserving.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:44 am to lsumatt
I didn't flip. I've always said "best" team. I don't even know what deserving means. If it means winning the big 10, then yes, Ohio State was more "deserving." I'll never believe they would have beaten that 2006 LSU team. But we'll never know, will we?
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:44 am to hojo
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I'll never believe they would have beaten that 2006 LSU team
well AU beat that 2006 team without a QB and with 210 lb LBs
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
It's the SEC. Brutal schedule. Go ahead. Argue that Ohio State would have gone undefeated in that conference. I'd love to hear that one.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:46 am to hojo
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But we'll never know, will we?
No, and that's a good thing. By losing 2 games, LSU forfeited their right to play Ohio State that year. You want to play for the NC? Score more than 6 points against Auburn. Don't turn the ball over 5 times at Florida. There are consequences to not showing up in CFB. That's what makes each and every week so damn exciting.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:48 am to Hot Carl
Yes,and that Ohio State team would have lost 3 games in that SEC conference. They won the Big 10, excuse me, the Big Suck, and they get an automatic bid? That's crap. That's the BCS.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:49 am to hojo
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It's the SEC. Brutal schedule.
LSU had a really hard schedule that year
most SEC schedules are still more like 2-games in conference....sometimes 3. we just had 4...all on the road
would OSU have lost to Auburn? unlikely
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:49 am to hojo
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Yes,and that Ohio State team would have lost 3 games in that SEC conference.
link?
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:49 am to hojo
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I didn't flip. I've always said "best" team. I don't even know what deserving means. If it means winning the big 10, then yes, Ohio State was more "deserving." I'll never believe they would have beaten that 2006 LSU team. But we'll never know, will we?
To be deserving, don't score 3 points in a game and lose another game by double digits when the other team has rolled people and beaten a top team on the road OOC
The BCS is already a playoff. A 2 team playoff, which most of the time is all that is needed.
The current formula is solid as well imo. You wont see situations like Nebraska in 2001 anymore
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
There's no link. that's my point. We'll never know. And we should.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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but look at the success of the BCS. by many accounts it's 10/10 and at worst 8/10. no other sport has that accuracy
every other sport is MORE accurate because the game is actually played on the field, not in a computer.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:51 am to hojo
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We'll never know. And we should.
we'll never know if that #5/9 (depending on 4 or 8 team playoff) would have won it all either, now will we?
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:51 am to hojo
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There's no link. that's my point. We'll never know. And we should.
you wouldn't know anyway. Fluke shite would happen in a one game playoff as well. At least this way, you know a deserving team is going to be national champs
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:51 am to usc6158
Or Oklahoma '03. Or Auburn '04. Or Texas '08.
Nope. never.
Nope. never.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:52 am to Tiger HouTX
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every other sport is MORE accurate because the game is actually played on the field, not in a computer.
12 games is more than enough to tell who is the best teams in college football where there really isn't much parity
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:52 am to Tiger HouTX
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every other sport is MORE accurate
you will never have one of these embarrassments with the BCS
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