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re: The 10 BCS teams that load up on cupcakes

Posted on 9/10/08 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Tebow4ReElection
Member since Aug 2008
89 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 2:55 pm to
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Pac-10 "beats up on" who? Tennessee? By how much? Gimme a frickin break.


Let's see. In 2006 Tennessee finished second in the SEC East but got spanked at home by Cal by 17 points. In 2007 Tennessee went 6-2 in the SEC and won the SEC East but got beat by 14 by Cal, who finished 3-6 in the Pac-10. This year Tennessee, the defending SEC East champ lost to last year's 5th place Pac-10 team, UCLA, by 3.

In 2005 Arkansas lost to USC by 53. In 2006 Arkansas, that year's SEC West champ, lost by 36 at home against USC.

In 2003 Auburn (5-3 in the SEC that year) lost at home to USC, 23-0.

In 2003 Mississippi State lost at home to Oregon by 8.
This post was edited on 9/10/08 at 2:56 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37691 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 3:06 pm to
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Pac-10 "beats up on" who? Tennessee? By how much? Gimme a frickin break.


Apparently you are not aware of the head to head record of PAC-10 vs. SEC over the past several years. 10-6 or 11-7 is the record.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 8:16 pm to
Just beat Ohio State, win your cupcake PAC12 title and you'll meet LSU in the real game. We'll settle it on the field and finally shut up you usc weiners.
Posted by Coastie
Topeka, KS
Member since Jul 2007
262 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 9:58 pm to
LSUTANGERINE: You listed all those teams (ex: Citadel) as scheduling cupcakes. Don't forget when LSU scheduled them, VA Tech was to return a game to Tiger Stadium but stood us up to play USC at RFK and barely lost...so we had to fill our schedule at the last minute.

We play some teams like LA Tech and ULL to keep the money in Louisiana. They aren't close games. I know that USC narrowly escaped Fresno one year except that Reggie Bush made a fantastic move in the last few minutes (he actually stepped out of bounds but wasn't called) to score the winning TD. Kinda reminds me of how the refs turn their heads when certain teams are gonna get beat (see Auburn the last two times LSU has been there AND Ohio State this last weekend, block in the back!!!).
This post was edited on 9/10/08 at 9:59 pm
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 12:19 am to
How does LSU rank with BCS teams that load up on Top-10 powerhouses, Top-15 powers, and Top-20 oponents?
This post was edited on 9/11/08 at 12:23 am
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28861 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 12:24 am to
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THEY DON'T INCUDLE BOWL GAMES BECAUSE(LSU) DOESN'T CONTROL THAT PART OF THE SCHEDULE.



Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 12:29 am to
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Apparently you are not aware of the head to head record of PAC-10 vs. SEC over the past several years. 10-6 or 11-7 is the record.


Why do you think those stats have any relevance in comparing the two conference's power rating?

When the majority of wins for the Pac-10 are by their six-time Pac-10 champion against 4th, 5th and 6th rated SEC teams, what does that prove to you?

Last year when USC could have matched up with a legitimate SEC power in Georgia, the Trojans sure didn't lobby for Georgia. No, they were more than happy to feast on an undermanned Big-10 cupcake.
This post was edited on 9/11/08 at 12:37 am
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 1:58 am to
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you forgot to add va tech, arizona state
No, what he really refused to add was:

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As soon as someone brings up "OOC schedule" in a contest of toughest schedules, they are automatically admitting defeat. The only reason anyone ever argues on an arbitrary, specific 1/3 to 1/4 of the schedule is because they know that their schedule -- considered as a whole -- sucks out loud.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 2:10 am to
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USC's win over Virginia is equivalent to a top SEC team beating South Carolina
Virginia is nowhere near the caliber of South Carolina. Arkansas State would be a better analog for Virginia, as there is no similar SEC team. Virginia is just awful. Richmond held them to as many TDs as SC did (and their TD against SC was in the first quarter, so not a "garbage time" score against scrubs, either).

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 2:16 am to
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In 2006 Tennessee finished second in the SEC East but got spanked at home by Cal by 17 points.
What are you smoking? Tennessee -- with the 4th best record in the SEC (behind Florida, Arkansas, LSU and Auburn) BEAT Cal -- Pac 10 Champs that year -- by 18. So, basically, that completely blows your point away.

Posted by Catt
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
224 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 6:23 am to
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Apparently you are not aware of the head to head record of PAC-10 vs. SEC over the past several years. 10-6 or 11-7 is the record.



There is 1 flaw with these stats; the PAC 10 plays the SEC maybe once or twice a year

I would love to see USC play the following schedule plus throw in LSU
@ Auburn
@ Florida
@ South Carolina
Georgia
Alabama
@ Arkansas
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37691 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 7:17 am to
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As soon as someone brings up "OOC schedule" in a contest of toughest schedules, they are automatically admitting defeat.


Who said toughest schedules? We are talking OOC schedules. We all know the in-cpnference is the toughest.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37691 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 7:17 am to
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There is 1 flaw with these stats; the PAC 10 plays the SEC maybe once or twice a year


And the excuses continue.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 7:48 am to
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And the excuses continue.


What excuses can you give us for the Pac-10 producing a six-straight Pac-10 Champion?

Excuse #1: The Pac-10 is a Cupcake Conference.

When the majority of wins for the Pac-10 are by their six-straight Pac-10 champion against 4th, 5th and 6th rated SEC teams, what does that prove to you?

USC wants no part of the SEC's top tier programs: LSU, Florida, or Georgia.
This post was edited on 9/11/08 at 7:59 am
Posted by WNCTiger
Member since Aug 2006
2883 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 8:45 am to
I think the fact that a USC fan is a member of an LSU football discussion board (constantly touting USC's superiority btw), and has over 6800 posts here speaks volumes about the quality of USC's program, it's football team, and it's fan base...

In my humble opinion.


Posted by jwill37
The Chuck
Member since Jan 2007
1383 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 8:55 am to
Why are people even giving usc credit for crushing virginia. It's virginia for god sakes. App St and Virginia would be a good game and if I were betting on it, I'd take App St. Just like last year the media hyped up Nebraska because usc was playing them. What nobody talked about was that nebraska was 5-7 last year. Also usc only beat 2 teams all year last year with a winning record. they have no choice but to schedule ohio state. everyone else they play sucks.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37691 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 5:06 pm to
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Excuse #1: The Pac-10 is a Cupcake Conference

When the majority of wins for the Pac-10 are by their six-straight Pac-10 champion against 4th, 5th and 6th rated SEC teams, what does that prove to you?


That would be four wins, the same amount LSU has against the PAC-10 in the same span. Take out USCs wins the this top conference knows as the SEC struggles to maintin a .500 head to head record with the cupcake conference you speak of. Take out LSU's four wins as well and the cupcake conference leads head to head by a wide margin
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37691 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 5:07 pm to
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I think the fact that a USC fan is a member of an LSU football discussion board (constantly touting USC's superiority btw), and has over 6800 posts here speaks volumes about the quality of USC's program, it's football team, and it's fan base...


Born and riased in BR. STill live here and follow LSU's program meutrally but closely.

And I am sure I do not speak volumes about USC's football program or fan base.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 5:51 pm to
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the cupcake conference leads head to head by a wide margin


Are you talking ancient history?

Try staying in the here and now--the 22nd century for a change.

Tell us how many times Florida, Georgia and LSU have lost to the Cupcake Conference this decade?

Can you count to ZERO.

Georgia wanted to play your Big Bad Trojans, but they went and hid behind the Rose Bowl Committe.


When USC isn't playing in their Cupcake PAC-10, they are beating up the Cupcake Big-10. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 5:51 pm to
Every SEC school had a stronger strength of schedule than Southern Cal last year.

That is truly PATHETIC!

2007 Strength of Schedule:

1. Mississippi
3. South Carolina
6. Florida
7. Georgia
8. Kentucky
9. Alabama
11. Auburn
13. LSU
14. Mississippi State
17. Tenneessee
19. Vanderbilt
33. Arkansas
83. USC (mighty trojans in the Pathetic 10)


Checkmate!
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