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re: Tell me more about LSU
Posted on 12/7/10 at 8:40 pm to Black Bengal
Posted on 12/7/10 at 8:40 pm to Black Bengal
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After the war, even though people in the South vilified him, Sherman remained a supporter and friend of LSU for the remainder of his life.
why do you think LSU got the old Pentagon Barracks location in Baton Rouge?
if we can't name the ROTC building for him, we need a Sherman tank....
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 8:43 pm to rickyh
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One of my first memories of LSU football was a game I attended in Tiger stadium against the Aggies
Actually, my first game in Tiger stadium was also against the Aggies... ended in a tie (1966).
Posted on 12/7/10 at 8:48 pm to Champagne
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I see things differently than do you.
Sherman RESIGNED his position with LSU. Why should LSU honor him in the manner that you propose? Sherman abandoned LSU and made war on the State of Louisiana.
+1
Posted on 12/7/10 at 8:49 pm to geauxtigahs87
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One of the most famous incidents involving Mike IV occurred on November 28, 1981. About 1:00am, Dr. Bivin got a call from the LSU police. "Mike's out," they said. "Mike who?" he asked. The police responded, "Mike the tiger. He's out in the middle of North Stadium Drive." It seems some pranksters had cut the chain to the outer door and the lock to the inner door, releasing the dangerous cat. Mike was wandering around the north end of the Pete Maravich Assembly Center. He ended up in the Bernie Moore Track Stadium. Mike attacked a small tree along the way and appeared to be enjoying himself. After three tranquilizers, Mike was returned to his cage and awoke the next morning with no ill effects.
My sister and I were driving thru campus that night and saw Mike out of his cage and then security coming to tranquilize him. We both were like "Hey, there's Mike. OMG There's Mike!!"
Posted on 12/7/10 at 8:51 pm to ShreveportTIGER318
A&M ties to Confederacy.
A&M's first President was a Confederate officer.
I love how streets and buildings on LSU's campus are named after CSA, and nothing named after terdhead Sherman.
A&M's first President was a Confederate officer.
I love how streets and buildings on LSU's campus are named after CSA, and nothing named after terdhead Sherman.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 8:58 pm to Oyster
Aggiegirl:
Thanks for your interest in LSU. You'll be playing a team that will be the first to have 3 BCS crystal footballs in their trophy case. Good luck on your season next year.
Thanks for your interest in LSU. You'll be playing a team that will be the first to have 3 BCS crystal footballs in their trophy case. Good luck on your season next year.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 9:18 pm to Gold Tiger
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I have never seen a school so proud of an ROTC program as Texas A&M.
I guess it's because it's more than an ROTC program. A&M's designation as a senior military college actually means something - the Corps must have "military environment in which the students live constantly, not just during the school day" - it's not just ROTC during the day and regular student at night, although there's more freedom at A&M and Va Tech compared to El Cid and VMI. All SMCs are supposed to simulate military life, which I guess is why the Corps is so separate from the rest of campus. It's almost like a school within a school really.
If you ever go on military college forums, A&M and VT are quite often considered alongside Citadel and VMI. I'm surprised there's so much backlash here, especially since so far, nobody has explained WHY they consider A&M's Corps so different from those of the other SMCs. I'd say the military environment can be diluted due to the presence of civilians, but it's not like a non-SMC's ROTC at all.
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I'm a VMI graduate and I'm saying it... VMI is a great school, but you don't do any of the cadets or alums a service by getting into a "mine is bigger than yours" contest with other SMCs or SAs. If you're an alumnus or cadet, I recognize your pride; however, remember that pride is one thing, and arrogance is another. I've served with Citadel, Texas A&M, USAFA, and Norwich guys on active duty....I always felt a bond with them, and they with me.
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I also am a VMI Alum and father of a current VMI cadet). I am proud of VMI- but I would be surprised and saddened if the alums of every one of the rest of the colleges on this forum wasn't equally and justifiably as proud of their alma maters. They all have their strengths and niches, and they all have their warts. Living in Texas for so many years after I retired from the army- I developed a great deal of respect for the Aggies
VMI vs other SMCs
A&M vs Citadel
A&M vs other service academies?
VMI vs Citadel
This post was edited on 12/7/10 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 12/7/10 at 9:24 pm to aggiegirl2005
LSU's trees are valued at $50 million dollars!
This post was edited on 12/7/10 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 12/7/10 at 9:27 pm to aggiegirl2005
quote:this post is exactly what I mean. Most A&M grads are quick to throw out these little details and historic flourishes. I have friends from the service academies and I taught a few classes at Westpoint. None of them hold A&M in the same regard that aggies hold themselves. I even have friends from Va Tech and none of them treat their school the way that Aggies do. I just don't get it.
I guess it's because it's more than an ROTC program. A&M's designation as a senior military college actually means something - the Corps must have "military environment in which the students live constantly, not just during the school day" - it's not just ROTC during the day and regular student at night, although there's more freedom at A&M and Va Tech compared to El Cid and VMI. All SMCs are supposed to simulate military life, which I guess is why the Corps is so separate from the rest of campus. It's almost like a school within a school really.
If you ever go on military college forums, A&M and VT are quite often considered alongside Citadel and VMI. I'm surprised there's so much backlash here, especially since so far, nobody has explained WHY they consider A&M's Corps so different from those of the other SMCs. I'd say the military environment can be diluted due to the presence of civilians, but it's not like a non-SMC's ROTC at all.
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I'm a VMI graduate and I'm saying it... VMI is a great school, but you don't do any of the cadets or alums a service by getting into a "mine is bigger than yours" contest with other SMCs or SAs. If you're an alumnus or cadet, I recognize your pride; however, remember that pride is one thing, and arrogance is another. I've served with Citadel, Texas A&M, USAFA, and Norwich guys on active duty....I always felt a bond with them, and they with me.
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I also am a VMI Alum and father of a current VMI cadet). I am proud of VMI- but I would be surprised and saddened if the alums of every one of the rest of the colleges on this forum wasn't equally and justifiably as proud of their alma maters. They all have their strengths and niches, and they all have their warts. Living in Texas for so many years after I retired from the army- I developed a great deal of respect for the Aggies
VMI vs other SMCs
A&M vs Citadel
A&M vs other service academies?
VMI vs Citadel
Posted on 12/7/10 at 9:39 pm to Spirit of Dunson
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I just don't get it.
Teachers eeerrrr Professors are supposed to get it……
Posted on 12/7/10 at 9:46 pm to SECede AG
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this post is exactly what I mean. Most A&M grads are quick to throw out these little details and historic flourishes. I have friends from the service academies and I taught a few classes at Westpoint. None of them hold A&M in the same regard that aggies hold themselves. I even have friends from Va Tech and none of them treat their school the way that Aggies do. I just don't get it.
Well, now you know why people joke about A&M being a cult.
There is a huge culture of pride and knowing/celebrating A&M's history that I'm sure is rather annoying to those not involved.Posted on 12/7/10 at 10:02 pm to Spirit of Dunson
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I have friends from the service academies and I taught a few classes at Westpoint.
LTC Gauthier?? Is that you??
Posted on 12/7/10 at 10:11 pm to LSUTiger205
Did anyone mention our tradition of piss bombs and knocking over portalets with opposing fans in them?
Posted on 12/7/10 at 10:34 pm to Champagne
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Sherman RESIGNED his position with LSU. Why should LSU honor him in the manner that you propose? Sherman abandoned LSU and made war on the State of Louisiana.
you can't honestly believe that Sherman was "wrong" do you?
Posted on 12/7/10 at 11:07 pm to Gtiger9757
my gawd, i hate to quote wikipedia, but this is the civil war story of sherman.
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In 1859, Sherman accepted a job as the first superintendent of the Louisiana State Seminary of Learning & Military Academy in Pineville, Louisiana, a position he sought at the suggestion of Major D. C. Buell and secured because of General George Mason Graham.[25] He proved an effective and popular leader of that institution, which would later become Louisiana State University (LSU).[26] Colonel Joseph P. Taylor, the brother of the late President Zachary Taylor, declared that "if you had hunted the whole army, from one end of it to the other, you could not have found a man in it more admirably suited for the position in every respect than Sherman."[27]
On hearing of South Carolina's secession from the United States, Sherman observed to a close friend, Professor David F. Boyd of Virginia, an enthusiastic secessionist, almost perfectly describing the four years of war to come:
You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it... Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth—right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.[28]
In January 1861, as more Southern states were seceding from the Union, Sherman was required to accept receipt of arms surrendered to the State Militia by the U.S. Arsenal at Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Instead of complying, he resigned his position as superintendent and returned to the North, declaring to the governor of Louisiana, "On no earthly account will I do any act or think any thought hostile ... to the ... United States."[29]
After the war, General Sherman donated two cannons to the institution. These cannons had been captured from Confederate forces and had been used to start the war when fired at Fort Sumter, South Carolina. They are still currently on display in front of LSU's Military Science building.[30]
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My couin owns Tyrone Plantation on Bayou Rapides where Graham hired Sherman in the front library. It was on land donated by Graham's mother-in-law that LSU was first constructed in pineville. The original LSU and the foundations of the original seminary are a state park across the hwy from the VA HOSPITAL in pineville, la.
Graham's father was Secy of War for Monroe and founded West Point (U.S. Military Academy.)
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In 1859, Sherman accepted a job as the first superintendent of the Louisiana State Seminary of Learning & Military Academy in Pineville, Louisiana, a position he sought at the suggestion of Major D. C. Buell and secured because of General George Mason Graham.[25] He proved an effective and popular leader of that institution, which would later become Louisiana State University (LSU).[26] Colonel Joseph P. Taylor, the brother of the late President Zachary Taylor, declared that "if you had hunted the whole army, from one end of it to the other, you could not have found a man in it more admirably suited for the position in every respect than Sherman."[27]
On hearing of South Carolina's secession from the United States, Sherman observed to a close friend, Professor David F. Boyd of Virginia, an enthusiastic secessionist, almost perfectly describing the four years of war to come:
You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it... Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth—right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.[28]
In January 1861, as more Southern states were seceding from the Union, Sherman was required to accept receipt of arms surrendered to the State Militia by the U.S. Arsenal at Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Instead of complying, he resigned his position as superintendent and returned to the North, declaring to the governor of Louisiana, "On no earthly account will I do any act or think any thought hostile ... to the ... United States."[29]
After the war, General Sherman donated two cannons to the institution. These cannons had been captured from Confederate forces and had been used to start the war when fired at Fort Sumter, South Carolina. They are still currently on display in front of LSU's Military Science building.[30]
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My couin owns Tyrone Plantation on Bayou Rapides where Graham hired Sherman in the front library. It was on land donated by Graham's mother-in-law that LSU was first constructed in pineville. The original LSU and the foundations of the original seminary are a state park across the hwy from the VA HOSPITAL in pineville, la.
Graham's father was Secy of War for Monroe and founded West Point (U.S. Military Academy.)
Posted on 12/7/10 at 11:46 pm to 80sTiger
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Sherman remained a supporter and friend of LSU for the remainder of his life.
If Sherman was truly a friend and supporter of LSU after the war, then, we thank him for that. But, I'm not sure about Honoring him.
He was a talented and wise man, and, he did what was right for him. He was from Ohio, so, of course he was right to resign and leave LSU once the war started. He could not in good conscience continue his work in a hostile country.
His assessment of what would happen in the war was also correct. Sherman was an outstanding military leader, and, I guess he was a great LSU administrator, too. However, even though it was the right thing for him to do, he made war on LSU and Louisiana. That's why he should not be treated as some kind of LSU hero, and, I don't believe that he IS regarded as such, so, I agree with this.
This post was edited on 12/7/10 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:09 am to Tiger in Texas
Wasn't it Sherman who said War is hell? He was a very complex character, didnt hate the South, or like African Americans but was a ruthless but effective military leader.
Another wierd fact, if you look at Law school you will see a blank area where a name was clearly scrubbed out. It was named for a guy who turned out to be a major criminal. It was not disclosed until after his death. Hence they had to take his name off the building. They also passed a law in louisiana you cant name a public building etc after anyone until five years after they die. (LOL)
Another wierd fact, if you look at Law school you will see a blank area where a name was clearly scrubbed out. It was named for a guy who turned out to be a major criminal. It was not disclosed until after his death. Hence they had to take his name off the building. They also passed a law in louisiana you cant name a public building etc after anyone until five years after they die. (LOL)
Posted on 12/8/10 at 1:11 am to Champagne
Sherman IS an American hero, and he IS an LSU hero, whether any snot nosed little hick pig redneck fu*ks want to admit it or not. I am PROUD of Sherman's association with LSU, and I am PROUD of his prosecution of the war. He did the right thing in his march to the Sea....it was BEAUTIFUL. I only wish today's whorefrick coward politicians would let our generals kill filthy monkey frick terrorist and their supporters in the same manner!
LSU is Sherman, and Sherman is LSU, so get the frick over it!
On another note, I will defend Robert E. Lee from those that still maintain that he was a traitor.....he remains today one of the greatest generals in U.S. history.....
You cannot judge either of the above by today's standards....
Anyway, how's this?
Why did the Aggie cross the road?
B/C he couldn't get his dick out of the chicken!
LSU is Sherman, and Sherman is LSU, so get the frick over it!
On another note, I will defend Robert E. Lee from those that still maintain that he was a traitor.....he remains today one of the greatest generals in U.S. history.....
You cannot judge either of the above by today's standards....
Anyway, how's this?
Why did the Aggie cross the road?
B/C he couldn't get his dick out of the chicken!
Posted on 12/8/10 at 1:28 am to Elcid96
Laugh your arse off ther bro. LSU is called the "Ole War Skule" for the number of ROTC students it has sent off to join the military. Go take a lok at the flag pole on the parade grounds, and look at the names of/on the buildings.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 7:22 am to Champagne
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If Sherman was truly a friend and supporter of LSU after the war, then, we thank him for that. But, I'm not sure about Honoring him.
I do get tired of the politically correct attitudes shown during these threads....i have an irreverent and compromise solution to the naming something for Sherman on campus (BTW - I do think the ROTC building should be named Sherman-Chennault Hall)
we need a Sherman tank to park next to the T-33 over by South Stadium....preferably one in operational condition (like LSU had during and after WW2)...build a nice shelter for it....something like a carport that are like the bus stops around the Union...
the tank could be the WT Sherman Memorial Tank...not a building and not only do we memorialize LSU's first president, but it is also a memorial to all the WW2 armor officers that graduated from LSU....
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