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re: Swing passes and sideways offense ???
Posted on 9/5/12 at 4:18 pm to RonBurgundy
Posted on 9/5/12 at 4:18 pm to RonBurgundy
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Most appropriate name in the history of TD
This coming from a guy who prides the words Whales Vagina with his name.
Can you say glass house...
Easy there vagina, I primise brighter days are ahead for you when you get your head out of your arse.
I have not bashed LSU once during this entire threat, I expressed frustration over the lack of a vertical passing game. When 17 of your 26 attempts are thrown for less then 5 yards down field you have a legit concern. They completed 5 passes for 109 yards half of which was run after the catch and another 14 for 82, you do the math tough guy... We need to work on the vertical passing game against teams like these.. It really isn't rocket science...
This post was edited on 9/5/12 at 4:27 pm
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Posted on 9/5/12 at 4:46 pm to MOT
quote:. But you're not 'out of the game'. That's what I was laughing at. You're off the field for one play.
Didn't read the thread, but did you see all those guys running off the field after losing their helmet this weekend? Those coaches don't have a clue.
Posted on 9/5/12 at 4:48 pm to ForeLSU
quote:. I dont disagree with anything that you've said. But some people may get frustrated, have a bad day, drink too much or just generally post something that pops into their head...that doesn't necessarily mean that they hate LSU.
Swing passes and sideways offense ???
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but apparently if you question anything the coaching staff does you become toxic.
it's not the questioning, it's the basis of the question. Coaches clearly make mistakes, but if your frame of reference for questioning is ineptitude, negligence, pet players, bbq, etc. then you are going to be called out on it. In addition, if virtually every comment you make is a bitch about the coaching staff, you're going to be labeled "toxic".
Some on here literally look for stuff to bitch about and don't consider the possible reasoning the coach might have had in making a decision. One can clearly make the wrong choice for the right reasons. It's perfectly ok to say "I can see why he did that, even though I would have done it differently". Saturday night Miles might have thought..."we need to shut this down right now so that our QB doesn't get killed, I don't need to see anything else to know what we need to work on in practice next week."
Posted on 9/5/12 at 4:51 pm to MOT
What everyone is trying to say is that our Passing offense looks like a boring high school offense.
I love winning all the time so I'm conflicted
I love winning all the time so I'm conflicted
Posted on 9/5/12 at 5:15 pm to Lonnie4LSU
quote:I'm glad you said this...
It's not so much game plan as it is fooball 101...if they willing to give you 5-10 yds on a certain play...you take the dang 5-10 yds all night.
LINK
Posted on 9/6/12 at 12:04 am to Dale Doback
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Forget the fact that North Texas had their safeties 20 yds deep to prevent the deep ball, and that LSU rushed for 300 yards as a result, that's irrelevant, because of what you wanted to see, as a fan..
Typical conserative bubble screen Les Miles loving man....If the Defense was 20 yards back, then tell me wise man why some of the bubble screens did not gain much and how in the hell were the DB's almost picking off a few at the end? I know the answer, we don't adjust good----like 1-9-12!!
The coaches should have practiced on more downfield routs against NT- end of story. Excuses about Hurst not being 100% for crying out loud, put Vadal in the game then. In 2006 LM played Broussard and Vincent, who were crippled, at Auburn for 1 YPC and the best team in the country missed out on what could have been another NC. He palys any other backs a little and throws to those awesome WR, we win that game and the MNC!!!!
He is conservative-See 2005 Tenn at LSU. That was sad
Here is to all conservatives here
Posted on 9/6/12 at 12:12 am to LSU1NSEC
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I'd rather see LSU pound the ball and wear out the defense than a lot of passing
We tried that against Bama on 1-9-12....psst, it did not work
The OP is saying that we need to practice our vertical passing game against cupcakes like North TX. That is not rocket science.
I love pounding the ball and I am all for it, just mix in some downfield passes. Not throw 17 of 26 passes either horizontal or 3-5 yards dam near horizontal. It seems to me Mett has a gun for an arm and we are giving him a water gun
Posted on 9/6/12 at 12:12 am to Dubaitiger
For me the consistent conservative pound ya football philosophy is where it is at but you have to use a practice game like a practice game. Throw the ball!
Hopefully Mett is allowed to air it out soon, if not, the answer is obvious. He doesn't let him for the same reason he didn't even let Mett play in the game previous to Saturday's.. he doesn't want him shell shocked like Lee.
Hopefully Mett is allowed to air it out soon, if not, the answer is obvious. He doesn't let him for the same reason he didn't even let Mett play in the game previous to Saturday's.. he doesn't want him shell shocked like Lee.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 12:19 am to cattus
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he doesn't want him shell shocked like Lee.
Cattus,
That is LM problem, he is over protective. Does all realize that Mett had beat out Aaron Murray at UGA what 3-4 years ago. He pulled a Scam Newton in Jr. College, then had a full year and 1/2 in our system. And he is a high rated passer. Shell shocked should not be in any of our vocabulary.
See the freshman at Oregon- he was shell shocked from all the fireworks he put up by lighting up the DB's.
It will be real tough to ever date one of LM daughters. The way he protects and babies his QB's----Jeez
Posted on 9/6/12 at 7:07 am to Dubaitiger
quote:This was never confirmed.
Does all realize that Mett had beat out Aaron Murray at UGA what 3-4 years ago.
quote:He also got blew up on a CB blitz that was his fault, and he also threw behind a couple of receivers.
He pulled a Scam Newton in Jr. College, then had a full year and 1/2 in our system. And he is a high rated passer.
This post was edited on 9/6/12 at 7:18 am
Posted on 9/6/12 at 7:08 am to Dubaitiger
quote:NT is not bama...
We tried that against Bama on 1-9-12....psst, it did not work
People always remember the last game... *sigh
This post was edited on 9/6/12 at 7:18 am
Posted on 9/6/12 at 7:19 am to cattus
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Hopefully Mett is allowed to air it out soon, if not, the answer is obvious.
Where are y'all getting we didn't throw the ball down the field? Most of you act as if EVERY pass was to the sidelines.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 7:58 am to That LSU Guy
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NT is not bama...
LSU Guy,
My point exactly, NT was not Bama but we will need a better offense for when we play Bama and other quality teams. We know that we can throw that damned bubble screen and run the ball therefore lets get Mett some quality downfield play calls to get him some practice--- that is all we want, not 12 bubble screens where the Def starts jumping them and we keep throwing them
Posted on 9/6/12 at 7:59 am to That LSU Guy
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Most of you act as if EVERY pass was to the sidelines.
It sure looked like most of them were horizontal
Posted on 9/6/12 at 8:17 am to Dubaitiger
Not EVERY pass was just 66% of them...
I think people have gotten way to bent out of shape and think I'm trying to say I hate LSU, Miles, and our entire offense when nothing could be further from the truth...
There is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning a coaches choice on playcalling on a freaking message board of all places. If I was "nitpicing", as one poster stated, then I would be on E Reid for blowing 2 coverages that allowed TD's but that's not his trend and the kid is a pre-season All American that I'm sure will correct those mistakes. My gripe was that Miles has shown for 4 years he is scared to stretch the field vertically due to weak QB play, now were supposed to have that fixed so I'd simply like to see us work on it because were going to need it if we want to be holding the crystal ball up come Jan 2013.
I think people have gotten way to bent out of shape and think I'm trying to say I hate LSU, Miles, and our entire offense when nothing could be further from the truth...
There is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning a coaches choice on playcalling on a freaking message board of all places. If I was "nitpicing", as one poster stated, then I would be on E Reid for blowing 2 coverages that allowed TD's but that's not his trend and the kid is a pre-season All American that I'm sure will correct those mistakes. My gripe was that Miles has shown for 4 years he is scared to stretch the field vertically due to weak QB play, now were supposed to have that fixed so I'd simply like to see us work on it because were going to need it if we want to be holding the crystal ball up come Jan 2013.
This post was edited on 9/6/12 at 8:33 am
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:04 am to Dubaitiger
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The coaches should have practiced on more downfield routs against NT
We all can be disappointed/frustrated bout anything our team does/doesn't do, but do you honestly think you or any other Joe fan knows better what plays to run in the No. Tex game than a coaching staff who has been one of the most successful staffs in college football since 2005?
Each to our own, but the idea that 5 days later we have bitching going on bout the plays run in a 4 TD win, 500+ yds of O, 200 yds passing, 26 1st downs, and 73% completion 1st game of the season win makes me laugh at guys who seem eagar to whine/cry/complain more than any woman I know.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:06 am to That LSU Guy
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He also got blew up on a CB blitz that was his fault, and he also threw behind a couple of receivers
Yes he did and I can assure you that the coaches don't want that to become a trend and him get hurt but I can also assure you that it became a coaching point in the film room everyday since and a learning moment for Mett...
In the times that I've met Mett over the last year trust me when I tell you that there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with his confidence and a pick here or there isn't going to shake him. That shot to the chest got his attention and I'm sure they have been working or blitz protection and recognition all week.
Guess what working on things in REAL game speed does, it helps with timing because no matter how hard you practice the game always moves faster and those behind them passes get corrected more in games then practice... I know that's going to be hard for some of you to believe but it doesn't make it wrong...
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:09 am to Lonnie4LSU
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coaching staff who has been one of the most successful staffs in college football since 2005?
I agree with that statement because it's fact but I have a question for you..
Would you agree that the same staff has been critisized at times for being stubborn, having a lack of creativity, and not adjusting during the time period of 2008-2011??? I'll let you figure out where I'm going with that.
Also Lonnie... and I'm not going to take this to a political level other then to make a comparison... Do you ever critique anything a politican does on any level? I would certainly assume you do, but wouldn't you agree that they probably know more about it then you do???
This post was edited on 9/6/12 at 9:12 am
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:40 am to Corndawg
I don't have a problem with people questioning play-calling that doesn't work or offenses that aren't effective....but that cannot be said about this team...
We averaged over 35 points a game last year and we scored 41 in the first game....
We lost one game last year and we looked bad doing it. I get that. But all of these experts/rantards want us to totally change our offensive philosophy based on one game and one opponent...
We beat two teams with arguably the best offenses in football last year (OR and WV) with this exact same vanilla offense...it works, it is what we do, it is what we recruit for, it is not going to change.
What would be the point of changing our offense dramatically because of the Bama game if the change causes us to lose a game or two along the way? If Mett threw 3ints against SC, how would you like our chances of winning?
all the people on this board have the right to their opinions/criticisms and I have the right to say they are wrong and without merit...
they want more passing downfield because it is pretty, I want to keep winning at our current pace... If you want pretty, become an OR fan and hope they never play another SEC team.
We averaged over 35 points a game last year and we scored 41 in the first game....
We lost one game last year and we looked bad doing it. I get that. But all of these experts/rantards want us to totally change our offensive philosophy based on one game and one opponent...
We beat two teams with arguably the best offenses in football last year (OR and WV) with this exact same vanilla offense...it works, it is what we do, it is what we recruit for, it is not going to change.
What would be the point of changing our offense dramatically because of the Bama game if the change causes us to lose a game or two along the way? If Mett threw 3ints against SC, how would you like our chances of winning?
all the people on this board have the right to their opinions/criticisms and I have the right to say they are wrong and without merit...
they want more passing downfield because it is pretty, I want to keep winning at our current pace... If you want pretty, become an OR fan and hope they never play another SEC team.
This post was edited on 9/6/12 at 9:49 am
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:57 am to thekid
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We beat two teams with arguably the best offenses in football last year (OR and WV) with this exact same vanilla offense...it works, it is what we do, it is what we recruit for, it is not going to change
You are correct we did, don't change a thing about the defense...
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What would be the point of changing our offense dramatically because of the Bama game if the change causes us to lose a game or two along the way? If Mett threw 3ints against SC, how would you like our chances of winning?
Would you agree the reason Bama beat LSU in the NC game was because we didn't change our offense and they did.. They did something new and we kept doing the same thing?? You don't have to answer that..
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all the people on this board have the right to their opinions/criticisms and I have the right to say they are wrong and without merit...
Again you are absolutely correct, you have the right to say they're wrong.. but that's all it is, your right, it doesn't make you correct about your judgement of those statements.
Wanting to have an effective vertical passing game doesn't mean I want LSU to become Tx Tech or OR, it just means that we need to be able to do it effectively to beat Elite SEC teams and the NC.. We had to be able to in 03 and 07... I've never once stated that we should throw 20 30+ yard passes down field a game
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