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re: Sunk cost and Matt McMahon….

Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:53 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:53 am to
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o either get a long shot with a lower ceiling or keep our shitty current coach?


So, you think WW has a lower ceiling than MM?

Interdasting...
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35542 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:54 am to
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That isn’t my job to know


I can assure you that Verge Ausburry, an ex-college football player and current political "yes man" masquerading as AD has no idea who that guy is. Nor do the donors or anyone within the athletic department. LSU doesn't have anyone in the office with a good feel on the pulse of college basketball. That doesn't mean they can't get lucky by hitting on the best resume...but I don't think this is the crowd to find that diamond in the rough.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29416 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:58 am to
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So, you think WW has a lower ceiling than MM? Interdasting...


That isn’t what I said….

I think wade has a higher floor, but lower ceiling than other guys we can possibly find.


McMahon is just fecal matter
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29416 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:59 am to
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That doesn't mean they can't get lucky by hitting on the best resume...but I don't think this is the crowd to find that diamond in the rough.


They can’t hire a search firm like everyone else?
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
629 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:02 am to
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Short term, you might take a financial hit, but long term, you’ll come out way ahead.


100% accurate, but these simpleton Mcboys can't see the forest through the trees.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22731 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:03 am to
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LSU basketball plays for fun only.


Well they’re failing at that too.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37735 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:09 am to
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Short term, you might take a financial hit, but long term, you’ll come out way ahead. 100% accurate, but these simpleton Mcboys can't see the forest through the trees.


I’d argue that that short term hit long term gain is true if we play the mid Major roulette wheel.

*IF* we get Wade we will make up the financial hit via season ticket sales.

Another season of McMahon renewals will absolute completely tank.


Wade being a known LSU entity they will all renew AND gain ticket holders.


With an unknown entity you may not have the drop off but you probably won’t pick up much either until they prove themselves thus short term loss due to buyouts long term gain.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35542 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:13 am to
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They can’t hire a search firm like everyone else?


I don't know if that is LSU's MO (at least these days). And even then, there is no guarantee of success. A search firm would have no doubt provided McMahon as a viable candidate given his record at Murray St. But sometimes you have to go beyond the record.

In 2017 Wade was not the No.1 target and first choice. It was his representation that first reached to LSU, not the other way around. Left to his own devices, Alleva would have just made the laziest hire possible. However, he had an associate AD at the time who in his past was a player on (a then very young) Billy Donovan's first Florida teams and subsequently worked on staff as a GA. It was that guy who pushed hard for Wade because he saw some good traits that reminded him of Donvan in the early days. Uncoincidentally, it was the best hire (from an on the court perspective) LSU has made since Brown left. Without a guy like that LSU hired Trent Johnson 2.0 in terms of enthusiasm and fundraising/recruiting desire combined with Jones' on the court coaching hesitancy.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29416 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Another season of McMahon renewals will absolute completely tank.


I’m not sure that’s possible at this point……if you have basketball season tickets at this point you’re not getting rid of them even if the coach was the love child of curly hallman and Matt McMahon.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11135 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:25 pm to
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but I don't think this is the crowd to find that diamond in the rough.


Should have not been lazy and hired Eddie Nunez as AD
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42299 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:32 pm to
Is the F500 CEO a nice guy though?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95551 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:59 pm to
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I think wade has a higher floor, but lower ceiling than other guys we can possibly find.


Give me your top 3 guys who are better than Wade that you think would reasonably consider coming here.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 1:07 pm to
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I truly don’t understand how you can approach this mess with a notion of Sunk cost


If a f500 ceo was running a company into the ground, would the board just sit idly by bc it costs a pile to can him?


This is the dumbest analogy yet...

LSU Men's basketball made a profit of $2.5M for the athletic department. There is no financial reason for LSU to fire McMahon. They'd be better off letting his contract expire.

Also of note, LSU doesn't pay buyouts. Boosters pay buyouts. You need someone with money to say they'll pay the $11M to get rid of him. So far, no takers. I don't see you offering your money.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18658 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 1:26 pm to
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LSU basketball plays for fun only. T


Hasn't been very fun the last 4 years.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3317 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 1:34 pm to
So bayou85 you think it makes more sense to keep a coach without a pulse and make 2.5 million tops than bring one with enthusiasm and a pulse who won't refuse to meet with donors and make 7-9 million a year?

Also the buyout is over 3 years no one needs to come up with 11 million genius!
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29416 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:08 pm to
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This is the dumbest analogy yet... LSU Men's basketball made a profit of $2.5M for the athletic department. There is no financial reason for LSU to fire McMahon. They'd be better off letting his contract expire.


Yikes, wouldn’t want you running any of my businesses.


All good as long as you’re not in the red is a very interesting position….
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:00 pm to
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Yikes, wouldn’t want you running any of my businesses.



It's not a business. If it were, he wouldn't have gotten a 7 year deal without benchmarks to measure performance. If it were a business, he'd be fired for cause for not winning enough. But again, that analogy is stupid.

Also i noticed instead of focusing on the argument, you attacked me. Classic failed argument. Since I'm an adult, I'll keep it about the argument.

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All good as long as you’re not in the red is a very interesting position….


Is it a good position for a business to ask people outside of the business to finance firing their CEO because they signed him to a bad deal but they won't get paid back if the business starts to flourish?
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:13 pm to
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Also the buyout is over 3 years no one needs to come up with 11 million genius!


It's not LSU's money. If someone was willing to pay that, they would have by now. buyouts are not paid with public money, even if its self generated.

You still have to have someone agree to pay $11m. Doesn’t matter how long. They have to agree to that. Nobody wants to. Get tf over it
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 4:40 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29416 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:03 pm to
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It's not a business. If it were, he wouldn't have gotten a 7 year deal without benchmarks to measure performance. If it were a business, he'd be fired for cause for not winning enough. But again, that analogy is stupid.


If you don’t think college athletics is big business, you’re too stupid to argue with further.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29416 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:11 pm to
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It's not LSU's money. If someone was willing to pay that, they would have by now. buyouts are not paid with public money, even if its self generated.




Can’t tell if you’re a troll or just stupid

I don’t know how you fail to understand that LSU’s athletic department is SELF SUSTAINING, yea for big buyouts they solicit donations, but what about donations that come in to TAF from smaller donors? What about the other revenue the athletic department has?
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