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re: Stuff that Les does that Aggravates me
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:10 pm to bbap
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:10 pm to bbap
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i think we all understand that running it down WKU's throat in the 2nd half on the ground does not really say anything. all you had to do was watch that offense in the first half under JJ and know how reminiscent it was of last years.
There is no way anyone can watch the first half of the WKU and honestly think JJ was a problem. We had 4 possessions in the first half, scored on 2, and had another cut short because of a stupid penalty. JJ had over 100 yards passing in the first half an played well.
I find it really hard to believe that people can watch both these QBs this year and think one is head and shoulders above the other. Lee isn't Aaron Rodgers and JJ isn't Aaron Brooks like many posters truly believe.
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Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:10 pm to lsufball19
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to let JL get in the game and get his confidence back up after his first bad game since la tech in 2009
That would be the way YOU would do it. That is fine. However, Miles gets the actual power. There are times when I think "hmmm, I would not have done that". BUT, I do not whine and bitch about it. I simply note that I would do it differently, realize that Miles has the power, and cheer anyway.
It really isn't difficult.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:11 pm to bbap
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yeah like one drive.
Okay, well, he looked average at best in a simplified game plan of running over all tacklers.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:13 pm to EarthwormJim
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There is no way anyone can watch the first half of the WKU and honestly think JJ was a problem. We had 4 possessions in the first half, scored on 2, and had another cut short because of a stupid penalty. JJ had over 100 yards passing in the first half an played well.
I find it really hard to believe that people can watch both these QBs this year and think one is head and shoulders above the other. Lee isn't Aaron Rodgers and JJ isn't Aaron Brooks like many posters truly believe.
A flat defense was the big problem in the 1st half of that game. Seriously, look at how much time our D was on the field. Now consider that we had 2 touchdowns with very little time of possession. JJ haters just dig for ways to criticize him.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:14 pm to junkfunky
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Not that he thinks JJ is the better option? He just likes him?
likes him more as in yes he thinks he's better. i disagree. (yeah, les is the coach herp derp) i also think les can be loyal to a fault sometimes, but i don't even want to get into that any further.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:14 pm to tiger1980
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But many times i get tired of all the smoke and mirrors approach when it comes to naming the starter at QB.
You can't understand the value of misleading the opposition, through the media, on the starting QB if there is at least somewhat of a question?
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For example trying to force feed a huge helping of Ware and Blue,while Ford seems to be making better impact.
You don't see that Ford is a liability between the tackles and is not effective after contact?
You didn't see that Blue, maybe even more than Hilliard, is our "between the tackles" RB of the future (Hilliard may stay at FB or go back and forth like Hester)?
You must have watched a different WKU game than I did.
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Should playing time not be equivalent to performance.That does not seem to be the case with Les.
Isn't the ultimate test of a coach's performance and acumen the win-loss columns? I know football is "more than wins and losses", but do we pay a coach, for example, if his team leads the FBS in "passing yards between the hash marks"? Or a "starting running back has the most yards per carry" bonus?
Why do you think it is we don't do that?
This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:16 pm to Ace Midnight
No, football is not "more than wins and losses" IMO
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:16 pm to lsufball19
JL is inferior to zach mettenberger. if we need a passing qb/ pro style qb why don't we let him play. lee's pass are underthrown a lot of the time. he also cannot stay poised in the pocket. the little bit we have seen from mett looks much better than lee. i'll take talent over experience anyday ie. mathieu starting over brooks
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:16 pm to Jester
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It's funny how an awful QB ranks so high on LSU's all-time win list.
yeah it was all JJ. not to mention there haven't been a lot of quarterbacks start as many games as him and had nearly the team around him that JJ does. Win/loss record is such an overrated stat. as if the QB is solely responsible for that record. we had one of the worst offenses in the country last year. i can assure you other guys on the team had more to do with that record than did JJ, mainly the defense
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:17 pm to lsufball19
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you don't punish someone for a bad game
Michael Ford wonders what you mean here?
Fumble = loss of touches
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:17 pm to tiger1980
I also thought about this scenario the other day. I wonder if its because Les wants to see his team succeed and has a strong want for JJ to achieve on the football field in spite of the RP fiasco.
This is just about the only thing that can make much sense or just to get two qb's prepared to have one he can go to if the other one isn't performing, this is most likely it.
I haven't felt this way over the running backs though. Simply because we use ware as a battering ram and then ford who has more quickness and elusiveness does his thing. Its a good combo that works.
This is just about the only thing that can make much sense or just to get two qb's prepared to have one he can go to if the other one isn't performing, this is most likely it.
I haven't felt this way over the running backs though. Simply because we use ware as a battering ram and then ford who has more quickness and elusiveness does his thing. Its a good combo that works.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:18 pm to lsufball19
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Win/loss record is such an overrated stat.
I bow to your infinite wisdom, oh, Sayer of Statistical Glory.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:23 pm to tiger1980
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For example trying to force feed a huge helping of Ware and Blue,while Ford seems to be making better impact.
Did you miss the game this past weekend?
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:26 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Michael Ford wonders what you mean here?
Fumble = loss of touches
Ford was never the starter at any point in his career and has 101 carries on the year. what more do you expect out of the backup? les is always going to have a bigger back as the starter and a running back by committee, been that way his entire tenure
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:26 pm to Stromile Swift
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Did you miss the game this past weekend?
He couldn't have seen it and posted that.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:31 pm to lsufball19
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i also think les can be loyal to a fault sometimes, but i don't even want to get into that any further.
Then why bring it up?
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:33 pm to tiger1980
quote:Welcome to my world
Stuff that Les does that Aggravates me
quote:Same here but with a caveat.
i love LSU and i am grateful to what Les has done to the program.
quote:It's not just QB, his communication style is not fan friendly and is full of misdirection. The fans want to know about the team and to get fed some red meat.
But many times i get tired of all the smoke and mirrors approach when it comes to naming the starter at QB.
To me, it's a fundamental difference in how the fan base is perceived and how Les perceives the fan base. Our fan base is actively and passionately involved in the team and we look at ourselves as active participants in the success of the team. Les looks at the fan base as outside observers, "the periphery" with a bit of disdain mixed in for good measure.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:34 pm to lsufball19
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Ford was never the starter at any point in his career
JEEBUS!!
Have it your way. Les knows NOTHING compared to YOU (and your ilk) about running a successful FBS team. He is so below you that it is not funny.
YOU know the correct rotation, etc and it is a dirty shame that HE is coaching the team instead of you. We are all cheated for having to simply get the benefit of your genius on this message board. we NEED it on the sidelines.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:35 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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That would be the way YOU would do it. That is fine. However, Miles gets the actual power. There are times when I think "hmmm, I would not have done that". BUT, I do not whine and bitch about it. I simply note that I would do it differently, realize that Miles has the power, and cheer anyway.
It really isn't difficult.
so why o you post in here? i love how any time anyone makes any sort of remark on here questioning a decision, they aren't cheering for the team and aren't happy with what's happened in the games. seriously the dumbest argument on this site, but it repeats itself throughout any thread where any coaching decision is questioned. this website was created for fans to voice their opinions and discuss those opinions. we all know les has the power, but how does that boil down to no one should voice what they would do differently. it's called banter. there literally is no point in discussing football if you're never going to have a dissenting opinion.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 1:36 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Tiger_n_ATL
Name coaches with full disclosure in their program.
Im really interested in seeing this list.
Hell, just name one.
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